One Piece Tier list

[Future Warrior]

God tier - Gol D. Roger, Prime Whitebeard, Prime Garp
S Tier - Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom, Old Whitebeard, Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Mihawk, Old Garp
A Tier - Rayleigh, Ben Beckman, Marco, Sabo, Fujitora
B Tier - Katakuri, Luffy (WCI), Vista
C Tier - Doflamingo, Ace, Jozu, Cracker

@Super Saiyan

Sounds about right?

 

[SSJ2]

Is that old Rayleigh?


God tier - Roger, Prime WB, Shiki
God tier 2 - Prime Garp, Prime Sengoku
S Tier - Prime Rayleigh, Old WB, Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, Mihawk, Akainu (post skip)
A Tier - Akainu (pre skip), Aokiji, Kizaru, Fujitora, Old Garp, Sabo, Old Rayleigh
B Tier - Marco, Ben Beckman
C Tier - Vista, Jozu, Katakuri, Luffy (WCI), Ace (maybe?)
D Tier - Doflamingo


In numbers:

God tier - 100-105
God tier 2 - 90-100
S Tier - 80-90
A Tier - 70-75
B Tier - 60-65
C Tier - 40-60
D Tier - 30

Maybe.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yes it’s old Rayleigh. Prime would be S tier.
I tend to think Yonko and Admirals are overall the same tier. Also, I feel Luffy surpassed Ace at this point.

 

[SSJ2]

I think the Admirals are close, but look at Akainu vs a WB who was deathly ill, had been stabbed through his intestines, and had a heart attack. He still pounded the shit out of Akainu. Akainu dealt him a lot of damage but I can't view them as being equals.

Yea Luffy should be above Ace at WCI. That's why I made that tier so large.

Ace: 40
Luffy: 45-50
Jozu/Vista/Katakuri: 55-60

 

[Future Warrior]

I think the Admirals are close, but look at Akainu vs a WB who was deathly ill, had been stabbed through his intestines, and had a heart attack. He still pounded the shit out of Akainu. Akainu dealt him a lot of damage but I can't view them as being equals.

Nobody is exactly equal to somebody but they are close enough where they shouldn't be a separate tier. Whitebeard landed shots on Akainu while he wasn't looking, and was still easily able to shrug off the damage taken. We then see Akainu dish out equal amount of damage towards WB back when both were swapping hands.

I don't like using numbers since One Piece fights are heavily situational but just to use as an example for this case

Whitebeard: 100
Akainu: 95
Aokiji: 93
Kizaru: 93 (maybe a bit lower)

The fact of the matter is that no Yonko has a chance of taking on 2 Admirals at the same time.

 

[SSJ2]

You have to remember that WB was significantly weaker when he fought Akainu than he was at the start of the War. I don't believe Aokiji managed anything against Whitebeard when he was still fresh, and he was equal to Akainu at the time.

The fact of the matter is that no Yonko has a chance of taking on 2 Admirals at the same time.

Definitely agree.

 

[Future Warrior]

Like I said I believe Whitebeard is generally more powerful in full health I just don’t think they are considered separate tiers. Using your tier list
Shanks - 90
Whitebeard - 88
Akainu - 82
Aokiji - 82

Don’t really see an issue with this.

 

[ahill1]

I don't know how to compare Ace and current Luffy... I believe Luffy should have soundly surpassed Ace with Gear 4, but then we are later shown that Yonko commanders are at least Doflamingo's tier and Ace was top 2 commander of the then strongest Yonko... Shouldn't that place Ace at least >> Doffy?

Also, isn't Mihawk too high?

 

[Future Warrior]

The division commander numbers aren’t ranked in terms of strength from my understanding. I think him knowing basic Haki and being skilled with his DF is enough for his position. I can’t see him being stronger than Doffy honestly.

 

[SSJ2]

Yea the division commanders aren't based on strength as FW pointed out.

And we aren't given any reason to believe Mihawk is weaker than Shanks. If anything the opposite could be implied. Mihawk is a beast.

 

[Future Warrior]

I only put him that high because he’s regarded as the strongest swordsman. Implying in a sword duel he would defeat Shanks. However, we don’t know the full extent of Shanks powers so it wouldn’t be strange if he was stronger.

 

[SSJ2]

The way WHitebeard held their duels in high regard makes me think they are both equal. Mihawk is a superior swordsman at this point (Shanks having 1 arm doesn’t help) and Shanks is shown to have some of the strongest Haki in the series.

 

[ahill1]

Well, would Whitebeard's 2nd division commander be weaker than Big Mom's third commander (Cracker)? Doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Future Warrior]

Ace can flame up the entire landscape which would be a death sentence to Cracker. He's not weaker.

 

[ahill1]

Cracker ~ Doflamingo.

 

[SSJ2]

Well, would Whitebeard's 2nd division commander be weaker than Big Mom's third commander (Cracker)? Doesn't sound right to me.

Even if he was weaker, this is irrelevant. We see Marco, Jozu and Vista being far more impressive than Cracker anyway. And don't forget that Oden was the 2nd Division commander despite being the strongest member of the crew. Shouldnt he have been the first commander by your logic?

 

[Future Warrior]

Cracker ~ Doflamingo.

This isn’t DBZ. Just because Ace could beat Cracker doesn’t mean he could beat Doffy.

Cracker is on that tier because of his infinite Biscuit warriors. Luffy’s Gear 4 wasn’t even enough to overcome that without Nami’s help. However, Ace’s flames would be a great countermeasure against his ability.

 

[ahill1]

Even if he was weaker, this is irrelevant. We see Marco, Jozu and Vista being far more impressive than Cracker anyway. And don't forget that Oden was the 2nd Division commander despite being the strongest member of the crew. Shouldnt he have been the first commander by your logic?

Again, I don't see why Ace would be a top tier commander if he were way weaker than the others. Some lower ranking commanders from Whitebeard were having some problems with Moria, so the low ranking ones seem to be weaker. The top 1 and 2 position can be interchangeable, but what reasons we have to believe Ace got a higher position despite being way weaker? We aren't given anything to believe this is the case with Ace.

@Future Warrior -- Ace would need to be strong too to break through Cracker's biscuits. Luffy couldn't even put a dent on them without G4. Also, even if it happens Ace's Akuma no Mi matched well against Cracker, if he were << Doflamingo, he'd still be the weakest among the top commanders, which I don't know if it's true.

 

[SSJ2]

Your entire thought process is disproved by Oda.



This would be like arguing the Saibamen were > Raditz because they appeared later in the story.

I already gave you an example of the inconsistencies within their ranks. Oden himself is on the level of a Yonko and was only the 2nd division commander.

Does it seem like the commanders are stronger near the beginning of the list? Definitely. But that has no bearing on where Ace stands in regards to the commanders above or below him.

 

[SSJ2]

There is no need for Ace to be as strong as the likes of Marco, Jozu or Vista. Ace was viewed by Whitebeard as a prodigy who had exceptional power for his age. The other commanders were all in their 40s and had been on the ship since Roger's era. Ace being anywhere near as powerful of them makes him worthy of being a commander, and it was evident that Whitebeard thought he would only continue to get stronger. He doesn't have to be at Marineford.