Piccolo (U6 vs U7 Tournament) takes the gauntlet

[Animelover5487]

1. Tagoma-Ginyu

2. Super Boo

3. SSJ3 Gotenls

4. Ultimate Gohan

5. Boohan

6. Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta (BOG)

7. Final Form Freeza (Super)

8. SSJ Vegetto

9. SSJ2 Vegetto

10. SSJ3 Vegetto

@Papasmurf, what do u think?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think he probably clears, especially if Base Saiyans > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

 

[Animelover5487]

I think he probably clears, especially if Base Saiyans > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

You think Base Saiyans are equal to SSJG, right? If so, you think SSJB Goku/Vegeta are thousands of times stronger than SSJG Goku (vs Beerus)?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think he probably clears, especially if Base Saiyans > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

You think Base Saiyans are equal to SSJG, right? If so, you think SSJB Goku/Vegeta are thousands of times stronger than SSJG Goku (vs Beerus)?

I thought so at one point, yeah. Not that sure anymore.

Also that's a good question, I've kind-of dodged thinking about that question but if I want the boost they get from going Super-Saiyan Blue to keep being that high then yeah I'd have to. Maybe that's one reason to not have them around Super-Saiyan God power.

 

[Animelover5487]

I have thought of another reason not to. Beerus said after Goku defeated Zamasu that someone like Zamasu would stand no chance against someone who was able to fight him that seems to imply that SSJG Goku gave Beerus (even though at full power he could probably kill Goku as easily as he did Zamasu) a better fight than Zamasu would have.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I have thought of another reason not to. Beerus said after Goku defeated Zamasu that someone like Zamasu would stand no chance against someone who was able to fight him that seems to imply that SSJG Goku gave Beerus (even though at full power he could probably kill Goku as easily as he did Zamasu) a better fight than Zamasu would have.

I didn't think of that. You're right.

So I guess Goku gradually lost his God-Power in his regular-state.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah I think his SSJ1 being up to par with his God state was only temporary, so Piccolo should be way weaker than SSJG Goku imo.

I still think he clears this, because the difference between SSj3 Vegetto and SSJG Galu seems positively incalculable in Super.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah I think his SSJ1 being up to par with his God state was only temporary, so Piccolo should be way weaker than SSJG Goku imo.

I still think he clears this, because the difference between SSj3 Vegetto and SSJG Galu seems positively incalculable in Super.

Do you mean incalculable, because DragonBall Super scaling is impossible (or at-least hard to figure-out, what with all the contradicted statements and feats) to figure-out or because the gap is huge?

 

[Papasmurf]

Humongous gap. With the universe busting and god tier and all that jazz it seems like everything from back in Z was intended to be fodderific compared to the new top tiers.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Stops from 7.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Piccolo clears.

 

[Tapion]

Piccolo one-shots everyone here imo. He was tanking Tired Frost while charging a SBC and only got defeated because Frost cheated

 

[Jeff Styles]

One shots everyone except Freeza and SSJ3 Vegetto, but win after some time.

 

[Pocket-God]

Not at all the order i'd put it in but going with how you have it i'd say stops at 2 which ends in Buucolo, Piccolo's only attack that makes him relevant isn't going to help much against someone who can regenerate.

 

[Tapion]

Piccolo can fire a ki blast. He doesn't need the Special Beam Cannon.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Piccolo can fire a ki blast. He doesn't need the Special Beam Cannon.

Not even that, he can just speed-blitz them and then punch to one-shot.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

You'll hate me for this, but he doesn't beat anyone.

It was pretty much confirmed by Future Trunks vs Goku that the SSJG = SSJ statement by Beerus was either retconned or forgotten. Goku's Saiyan Beyond God level is now a completely different form from his base, so Frost > Base Goku =/= Frost > SBG Goku.

In my opinion, Piccolo has reached a complete plateau. The fact that even after seven years of training from being able to take on a Cell Junior and hold his own for a time, he was much weaker than Kaioshin who was weaker than Perfect Cell means he's not gaining much if any power from training anymore. Considering what I said above, there's really no evidence at all that Piccolo has gotten much stronger than he was in RoF, and he's certainly not at the ridiculous, fusion-beating heights some people think he is. Yes, this means everyone in the U6 tournament except Hit was pathetic. We knew that already. I doubt he's gotten the power to beat Tagoma.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

You'll hate me for this, but he doesn't beat anyone.

It was pretty much confirmed by Future Trunks vs Goku that the SSJG = SSJ statement by Beerus was either retconned or forgotten. Goku's Saiyan Beyond God level is now a completely different form from his base, so Frost > Base Goku =/= Frost > SBG Goku.

In my opinion, Piccolo has reached a complete plateau. The fact that even after seven years of training from being able to take on a Cell Junior and hold his own for a time, he was much weaker than Kaioshin who was weaker than Perfect Cell means he's not gaining much if any power from training anymore. Considering what I said above, there's really no evidence at all that Piccolo has gotten much stronger than he was in RoF, and he's certainly not at the ridiculous, fusion-beating heights some people think he is. Yes, this means everyone in the U6 tournament except Hit was pathetic. We knew that already. I doubt he's gotten the power to beat Tagoma.

I'm not gonna hate you but Piccolo is Toriyama's favorite so he can get stronger when plot demands it.

 

[Animelover5487]

You'll hate me for this, but he doesn't beat anyone.

It was pretty much confirmed by Future Trunks vs Goku that the SSJG = SSJ statement by Beerus was either retconned or forgotten. Goku's Saiyan Beyond God level is now a completely different form from his base, so Frost > Base Goku =/= Frost > SBG Goku.

In my opinion, Piccolo has reached a complete plateau. The fact that even after seven years of training from being able to take on a Cell Junior and hold his own for a time, he was much weaker than Kaioshin who was weaker than Perfect Cell means he's not gaining much if any power from training anymore. Considering what I said above, there's really no evidence at all that Piccolo has gotten much stronger than he was in RoF, and he's certainly not at the ridiculous, fusion-beating heights some people think he is. Yes, this means everyone in the U6 tournament except Hit was pathetic. We knew that already. I doubt he's gotten the power to beat Tagoma.

Whether you choose to believe Super Saiyan Goku kept his SSJG power or not. Base Saiyans are still shown to be at least Boohan level, if not higher as evident by Base Goku vs Final Form Freeza and SSJ3 Gotenks vs Base Copy Vegeta. Vegeta had to go Super Saiyan against Frost even after he was almost completely worn out from his fights with Goku and Piccolo, thus Piccolo should be well beyond Base Saiyans so Piccolo probably stomps the majority of the Boo arc excluding maybe SSJ3 Vegetto.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah I don't believe Goku's SSJ remained as high as it was against Beerus when he was still feeling SSJGs power (as he would just turn 8x stronger than SSJG by using SSJ3 in that case, which he clearly couldn't), but the base Saiyans are still quite clearly very powerful in Super. Piccolo rapes Boo saga and probably even GT imo.