Recent Chapter Discussion

[Animelover5487]

And you think Dinosaur > Android #17 (Arc Moro)?

That's crazy, no he's just talking about HIS Androids. Although I haven't read the chapter yet, have the Gammas been made yet? If so, that would still put that dinosaur at Blue level lol.

 

[Symbiote]

No Gammas yet. I’m sure he meant that was his strongest Android.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635091592347525120

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It's out. As the leak said, it's mostly just a recap of the movie + Kuririn gets stomped by a bee android.

 

[Papasmurf]

It's out. As the leak said, it's mostly just a recap of the movie + Kuririn gets stomped by a bee android.

Not surprised after that dinosaur android was more ot less confirmed stronger than Cell

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Not surprised after that dinosaur android was more ot less confirmed stronger than Cell

Nah it was probably just stronger than the weaksauce betas Hedo was making. It's definitely not stronger than Cell if Goten and Trunks could destroy it.

 

[Papasmurf]

Nah it was probably just stronger than the weaksauce betas Hedo was making. It's definitely not stronger than Cell if Goten and Trunks could destroy it.

Either Goten and Trunks are stronger as teens than as kids or it's first or second form Cell the dino was compared to, imo.

 

[SIAD]

@GreatSaiyaman123
@Kenshi

Where does the Dinosaur compare to Cell?

Seeing how powerful Trunks and Goten are as children just by playing, I wouldn't be surprised if they were astronomically more powerful in adolescence in a series where many become too powerful out of nowhere.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Either Goten and Trunks are stronger as teens than as kids or it's first or second form Cell the dino was compared to, imo.

He wasn’t compared to Cell, was he?

@GreatSaiyaman123
@Kenshi

Where does the Dinosaur compare to Cell?

Seeing how powerful Trunks and Goten are as children just by playing, I wouldn't be surprised if they were astronomically more powerful in adolescence in a series where many become too powerful out of nowhere.

Goten and Trunks weren’t allowed to train or fight, and in the original EoZ they were barely stronger than in the Boo Saga. That hasn’t changed yet, so they’re still the same.

The Dino was stronger than them in Base, but weaker than them as SSJs. I think he’s stronger than Android 16 at most.

 

[Animelover5487]

The fuck? I just recent chapter. My boy Kuririn gets beat by a freaking bee Android. Like damn! And why does he use a fucking gun? Guns were never effective. Is Toyo on crack?!

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Besides being Toriyama’s script, that scene just smells of Toriyama for me.

 

[Animelover5487]

Besides being Toriyama’s script, that scene just smells of Toriyama for me.

I am really not a fan of this rando guy who happened to be Red's son or whatever just growing Androids that are so powerful. It cheapens the story even more than it already was.

At least with Gero, he was established to be a brilliant scientist and studied Goku extensively for over 10 years.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I am really not a fan of this rando guy who happened to be Red's son or whatever just growing Androids that are so powerful. It cheapens the story even more than it already was.

At least with Gero, he was established to be a brilliant scientist and studied Goku extensively for over 10 years.

The scientist is Gero's grandson and he's being hired by Red's son to build new androids, so I guess intelligence is hereditary? I think it's even said he studied Gero's blueprints for Cell in the Goten/Trunks mini-sagas or something.

After half the cast got to be Blue level in the ToP I'm not even bothered with the Gammas, but Cell Max is definitely weird. Toriyama making him look like his 2nd form also confuses a lot of people.

 

[SIAD]

It's hard to know what Piccolo was referring to, when he said that the strength of the Gammas is similar to that of Goku and Vegeta.

Are you referring to Goku and Vegeta PSSJB at the end of Arc Moro?

I see it possible that Goku momentarily using his PSSJB (when receiving energy from the Z Fighters), had the same power as Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart), but a temporary power, which made Piccolo think that the Gammas are in the level of Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart).

What do you think?

 

[Warrior_of_Mite]

It's hard to know what Piccolo was referring to, when he said that the strength of the Gammas is similar to that of Goku and Vegeta.

Are you referring to Goku and Vegeta PSSJB at the end of Arc Moro?

I see it possible that Goku momentarily using his PSSJB (when receiving energy from the Z Fighters), had the same power as Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart), but a temporary power, which made Piccolo think that the Gammas are in the level of Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart).

What do you think?

I have always thought it has to be their SSB forms. Piccolo groups Goku and Vegeta together when making this statement. Meaning, he sees them as close in power to each other. The only shared transformation they have is SSB. They couldn't be grouped together in other arcs since Goku always ended up stronger than Vegeta in each one. So it has to be when they were close in power.

Scaling also dictates this to be true. Later in Super Hero, we see Ultimate Gohan fight a Gamma and they are pretty even. The same thing happened right before the ToP with SSB Goku and Ultimate Gohan. Both fought Ultimate Gohan pretty well, so it seems fair to say that SSB Goku and Gamma are on par with each other as Piccolo says.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Man these leaks are so fucking sad. I know most of you guys already gave up on Super, but even I want to drop the towel after this shit.

First I was sad because they changed the meditation thing. But then the next page got leaked.

So you know how in the movie Vegeta say Jiren had perfect Ki control and all that? Well in the manga he adds Broly, Moro, Gas and Black Freeza to the "not that strong, just had good Ki control" statement. Broly has better Ki control than Goku and Vegeta. Literally 1 page after Goku refused to spar with him because he couldn't keep his shit together.

 

[SIAD]

Goku mentions that Broly has improved a lot. That's true?

 

[Warrior_of_Mite]

Goku mentions that Broly has improved a lot. That's true?

No mention of Broly's power. Just that he loses control when he fights. The context Goku is using is that Broly is getting better at controlling his mind during combat.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Goku mentions that Broly has improved a lot. That's true?

Possibly. He hasn’t been seen in action yet.

I think the whole page about Vegeta saying all the villains were as strong as them should be ignored. It’s clearly wrong.

 

[SIAD]

Possibly. He hasn’t been seen in action yet.

I think the whole page about Vegeta saying all the villains were as strong as them should be ignored. It’s clearly wrong.

I see it in 2 ways:

1.- Vegeta said it thinking in comparison to his PSSJB forms.

2.- Vegeta said that they had been surpassed at the time by those characters, but not necessarily speaking in comparison to their current powers.