RoSaT Levels

[GreatSaiyaman123]

So Buff Cell at FP is 137.5

An almost 1.4x advantage over Kid Gohan’s Super Saiyan 2 power?

No? Why would he? I just said Buff Cell is below 75.

 

[FeatsofPower]

No? Why would he? I just said Buff Cell is below 75.

Why does he only have a 1.36x boost against Gohan when he had a 2.5x boost against Trunks? Cell is even larger against Gohan than he is against Trunks.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why does he only have a 1.36x boost against Gohan when he had a 2.5x boost against Trunks? Cell is even larger against Gohan than he is against Trunks.

Because he’s heavily weakened. Also Cell vs Gohan has a huge power reserve.

If we’re going down that route, shouldn’t both boosts be multifold? Cell is meant to be emulating Grade forms, isn’t he?

 

[FeatsofPower]

Because he’s heavily weakened.

How weakened?

Cell is meant to be emulating Grade forms, isn’t he?

Did Cell get the same Super Saiyan 2 boost as Gohan?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

How weakened?

Enough that even getting like 3x bigger wasn’t enough to close the gap. I’m not sure if size dictates power, but this looks like it should be a multifold boost.

Did Cell get the same Super Saiyan 2 boost as Gohan?

He’s not emulating SSJ2 on purpose and couldn’t decide how strong he was.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Enough that even getting like 3x bigger wasn’t enough to close the gap. I’m not sure if size dictates power, but this looks like it should be a multifold boost.

Ok so he got a 2.5x boost before with Trunks and now he’s getting at least that against Gohan he’s just weakened though, right?

He’s not emulating SSJ2 on purpose and couldn’t decide how strong he was.

SPC’s aura is not emulating Super Saiyan 2?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Here’s the real problem for me: Cell and Dabra being compared. Dabra even exceeds Goku’s estimatives. So why should he be below SPC?It’s not like SPC has done anything other than injure off-guard Gohan and die, so why should he rival Gohan?

But because we have SSJ2 Goku at 2x FP Cell, and Teen Gohan is at most 66% of Goku, SPC can only be 1.33x FP Cell.

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

Here’s the real problem for me: Cell and Dabra being compared. Dabra even exceeds Goku’s estimatives. So why should he be below SPC?It’s not like SPC has done anything other than injure off-guard Gohan and die, so why should he rival Gohan?

Goku couldn't do the same with Frieza, neither Piccolo with Frieza or Imperfect Cell, Base Vegeta with 19, among many other examples.

The fact that Cell came once again proves that he felt in position to handle a fight with Gohan, and this time is not arrogance, as he has learned about Gohan's strength, he is even given SSJ2 traits such as lighting to represent us that he is on that realm. Cell is a rival to Kid Gohan, Dabura to the far weaker Gohan that even Vegeta disrespects.

Dabura being comparable to SPC doesn't work.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Here’s the real problem for me: Cell and Dabra being compared. Dabra even exceeds Goku’s estimatives. So why should he be below SPC?It’s not like SPC has done anything other than injure off-guard Gohan and die, so why should he rival Gohan?

Context brother.

1. “He would have been a real threat 7 years ago. At least at the level we are now. There was this guy named Cell, he was about as strong as him.”

Later

2. “Vegeta, I had no idea you had Super Saiyan 2!”

Process of elimination brother.

Dabura being comparable to SPC doesn't work.

Of course not, Super Saiyan Majin Vegeta is seen as the ultimate threat, yet he’s nowhere near SPC.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

A week from now you'll be on the SSJ2 side again so why bother

 

[Yoshi]

I think the Gekiretsu Kodan being x2 Piccolo works fine. Anything less than that is nerfing.

 

[FeatsofPower]

A week from now you'll be on the SSJ2 side again so why bother

That's not true, I haven't changed my opinion since the last time I was here when I did a full watch through of the Buu Saga for exactly these reasons. I doubt I'll ever change again, the narrative is clunky, but clear. Did you read the argument I just made? It pretty much solidifies everything.

I think the Gekiretsu Kodan being x2 Piccolo works fine. Anything less than that is nerfing.

What was Vegeta's amp on Namek?

 

[Yoshi]

What was Vegeta's amp on Namek?

x1.33. I can see Final Crash being equal to Reacoom.

 

[FeatsofPower]

x1.33. I can see Final Crash being equal to Reacoom.

So why would Piccolo's Light Grenade be so much more advanced than Vegeta's Galick Gun?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why wouldn Piccolo at the peak of his abilities have a noob’s amp?

 

[FeatsofPower]

Why wouldn Piccolo at the peak of his abilities have a noob’s amp?

According to my numbers he has an elite amp. If 1.33x is the standard previously.

 

[FeatsofPower]

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