Saiyan-Saga Vegetto vs SSJ Trunks (Arrival)

[Fantastische Hure]

No Kaio-Ken.

Who wins?

 

[Loby]

Lol. Trunks one shots him.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

With Kaio-Ken?

How high do you think he would be just normally?

 

[SSJ2]

Base Vegetto one shots.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Around which level would you put him, if you were to guess.

 

[SSJ2]

No idea reallyy....but I think Boo arc vegetto is equal to Gohan Boo, so applying similar logic here I think he'll win.

 

[ahill1]

Checking on my last battle power list, I'd have Goku and Vegeta getting a 40,000 boost when Vegetto when going by the gaps implied at the Boo saga. Could even be more if I applied the 50x SSJ multiplier for fusions. Discounting a little since Goku's base is significantly weaker than Vegeta's, I'd have Vegetto at around 500,000,000 or so, just in base state. Plenty to easily defeat the boy from the future.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Well there's also the thing that a fusion will also always be higher than what-ever its components are capable of. I can't see SSJ3 Goku defeat Normal Vegetto for example.

 

[ahill1]

Well there's also the thing that a fusion will also always be higher than what-ever its components are capable of. I can't see SSJ3 Goku defeat Normal Vegetto for example.

Yeah, and given the implications of base Gotenks post being comparable to Super Boo (sensible chi), I don't see how base Vegetto completely blowing Goku SSJ3 out of the water would be contested.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, that's what I mean. The normal version of a fusion will always be higher than the highest power the components are capable of, so perhaps there's no set multiplier since I also think normal Vegetto > SSJ-Blue Goku/Vegetto.

 

[SSJ2]

Well there's also the thing that a fusion will also always be higher than what-ever its components are capable of. I can't see SSJ3 Goku defeat Normal Vegetto for example.

This was stated? I agree, I just can’t recall.

 

[Loby]

There is no evidence Base Vegetto is so strong. He went SSjin immidietly. There is no way Base Vegetto (Saiyan Saga) csn beat SSjin Trunks imo

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

This version of Goku and Vegeta didn't went to far like their Boo arc counterpart did which made Vegito extremely strong so therefore Vegito from Saiyan arc is weaker than Vegito from Boo arc in terms of Potara boost.

I have Vegito from Saiyan arc around base form of Freeza.

 

[GSM123]

Going with official stuff because I don’t have my own multipliers and numbers anymore nor do I see any reason to question them, Saiyan Saga Vegetto would be the product of Goku’s power by Vegeta’s, and it would be a bit over 144,000,000. That’s pretty close to Trunks’ 150,000,000; so I say Vegetto wins since Trunks is a pretty shit fighter.

Well there's also the thing that a fusion will also always be higher than what-ever its components are capable of. I can't see SSJ3 Goku defeat Normal Vegetto for example.

This was stated? I agree, I just can’t recall.

Goku implied it in his explanation about fusion dance.


Chapter: 469 (DBZ 275), P6.1-7
Context: after Goku laments that Gohan and Vegeta are dead
Goku: “I coulda used Fusion…”
Dende: “Fusion…! Merging together, right? That’s the specialty art of the people of Planet Metamor!”
Goku: “So you know about it, Dende…! That’s right, some people from Metamor who I met in the afterlife taught me that art…It’s a merging technique which can only be performed if two people are fairly close in both power and body size…In other words, by having two people merge into one, they’re able to become a single, new human with amazing power which either of them on their own absolutely wouldn’t be capable of.It really is incredible! Those two from Metamor were completely weak and gentle on their own, but by using Fusion they transformed into a substantial warrior! [ ] …I was just taught the art, but I ain’t never tested it out…There wasn’t anybody on par with me in the afterlife…”

 

[SSJ2]

True. I wouldn’t even call that an implication.. it is directly stated.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, it makes logical sense to me. Why would the product of a fusion in any way (even in its lowest state) lose to any of its components. That'd make no sense.

 

[GSM123]

So based on the fusion rules, would you guys agree with that?

Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta > Base Gogeta > SSJ3 Goku?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah. Although that seems to have changed in DB-Super, regarding Vegetto & Gogeta. Or maybe it's because they're rivals now.

This Vegetto without any Kaio-Ken or anything should at-least be >>> Kaio-Ken x4 Goku and Oozaru Vegeta which doesn't say much.

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku and Vegeta likely wont get a rivalry boost since Goku here is less than half of Vegeta's power, so Trunks stomps.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Do you see them get past 50% or 100% Freeza with a Kaio-Ken x4?