Since Goku's surpassed the Gods...

[Fantastische Hure]

...and Vegeta'll probably do so too soon, is the next goal to surpass the Angles? Assuming the series is coming back on-air?

If so how long will that take them? Another 100-some episodes? :mikey :mikey :mikey

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering UI is only a situational form, it'll probably be restricted for a long time and may just show up as a deus ex machina whenever the plot demands, with both KKx20 Blue Goku and SSBE Vegeta/PSSB Goku and Vegeta staying below Hakaishin tier until Toriyama's done milking and decides to move towards Super's ending. Considering Beerus' defeat will likely be a major goal for Vegeta when learning he coaxed Freeza into destroying his planet being a Chekhov's Gun and Beerus having constantly been a benchmark in all previous arcs, Toriyama will likely hold off on having Beerus be surpassed in an easily usable form by Goku and Vegeta until the penultimate or final arc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The God form also seemed temporary for its time and seemed to be gradually going-away, until Freeza's return movie. :mikey :mikey :mikey

 

[Void]

Considering UI is only a situational form, it'll probably be restricted for a long time and may just show up as a deus ex machina whenever the plot demands, with both KKx20 Blue Goku and SSBE Vegeta/PSSB Goku and Vegeta staying below Hakaishin tier until Toriyama's done milking and decides to move towards Super's ending. Considering Beerus' defeat will likely be a major goal for Vegeta when learning he coaxed Freeza into destroying his planet being a Chekhov's Gun and Beerus having constantly been a benchmark in all previous arcs, Toriyama will likely hold off on having Beerus be surpassed in an easily usable form by Goku and Vegeta until the penultimate or final arc.

Where is it stated that Beerus coaxed Freeza into doing it? Last I remember Beerus said he authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction, not ordered it. It came across to me like Freeza needed to ask Beerus for permission to blow up Vegeta, since destroying planets is Beerus' gig.

Yeah, Goku and Vegeta will set their eyes on the angels after. I'm sure the Great Priest's power will be shown... someday. I also assume the angels have MUI, so at least another 100 episodes.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Considering UI is only a situational form, it'll probably be restricted for a long time and may just show up as a deus ex machina whenever the plot demands, with both KKx20 Blue Goku and SSBE Vegeta/PSSB Goku and Vegeta staying below Hakaishin tier until Toriyama's done milking and decides to move towards Super's ending. Considering Beerus' defeat will likely be a major goal for Vegeta when learning he coaxed Freeza into destroying his planet being a Chekhov's Gun and Beerus having constantly been a benchmark in all previous arcs, Toriyama will likely hold off on having Beerus be surpassed in an easily usable form by Goku and Vegeta until the penultimate or final arc.

Where is it stated that Beerus coaxed Freeza into doing it? Last I remember Beerus said he authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction, not ordered it. It came across to me like Freeza needed to ask Beerus for permission to blow up Vegeta, since destroying planets is Beerus' gig.

Yeah, Goku and Vegeta will set their eyes on the angels after. I'm sure the Great Priest's power will be shown... someday. I also assume the angels have MUI, so at least another 100 episodes.

So Bills is on his way to becoming the next Raditz of the series? :mikey :mikey :mikey

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Where is it stated that Beerus coaxed Freeza into doing it? Last I remember Beerus said he authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction, not ordered it. It came across to me like Freeza needed to ask Beerus for permission to blow up Vegeta, since destroying planets is Beerus' gig.

He still seemed pretty glad the Saiyan world was destroyed, with it's destruction by Freeza even being one of the things he asked first upon waking up. Seems like even if he only gave the OK, he would've destroyed it personally eventually if Freeza didn't.

 

[Zippy]

Inb4 we thought goku surpassed the gods hut beerus is still stronger

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Goku still not surpassing Beerus sucks. You gotta contrive reasons for why Beerus just doesn't end the conflict instantly.

Also probably not, the series treats Beerus as a massive thing, so expect him to get stronger.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Bills was lower than Jiren and Goku surpassed him.

Goku also mastered Ultra-Instinct, something Whis made sound like Bills was far from achieving still.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering Super is basically just Bleach posing as Dragon Ball, it's only a matter of time before Boris shows his Bankai to restore the status-quo.

 

[Void]

Goku still not surpassing Beerus sucks. You gotta contrive reasons for why Beerus just doesn't end the conflict instantly.

Also probably not, the series treats Beerus as a massive thing, so expect him to get stronger.

MUI Goku was definitely beyond Beerus.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Goku still not surpassing Beerus sucks. You gotta contrive reasons for why Beerus just doesn't end the conflict instantly.

Also probably not, the series treats Beerus as a massive thing, so expect him to get stronger.

MUI Goku was definitely beyond Beerus.

MUI Goku is going to be Super's way out of most problems. They can asspull it out if they need to kill an enemy.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku still not surpassing Beerus sucks. You gotta contrive reasons for why Beerus just doesn't end the conflict instantly.

Also probably not, the series treats Beerus as a massive thing, so expect him to get stronger.

MUI Goku was definitely beyond Beerus.

MUI Goku is going to be Super's way out of most problems. They can asspull it out if they need to kill an enemy.

Or it'll be surpassed the next movie or resurgence of DB-Super after the Broly movie. :mikey :mikey :mikey

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

MUI Goku was definitely beyond Beerus.

MUI Goku is going to be Super's way out of most problems. They can asspull it out if they need to kill an enemy.

Or it'll be surpassed the next movie or resurgence of DB-Super after the Broly movie. :mikey :mikey :mikey

No way, they're adamant about not surpassing Beerus. MUI Goku is the perfect compromise, Goku's surpassed Beerus, but he doesn't know how to access the state which has surpassed the GoD.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

MUI Goku is going to be Super's way out of most problems. They can asspull it out if they need to kill an enemy.

Or it'll be surpassed the next movie or resurgence of DB-Super after the Broly movie. :mikey :mikey :mikey

No way, they're adamant about not surpassing Beerus. MUI Goku is the perfect compromise, Goku's surpassed Beerus, but he doesn't know how to access the state which has surpassed the GoD.

They might learn it off-screen like Super-Saiyan God. 2 2 2

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Or it'll be surpassed the next movie or resurgence of DB-Super after the Broly movie. :mikey :mikey :mikey

No way, they're adamant about not surpassing Beerus. MUI Goku is the perfect compromise, Goku's surpassed Beerus, but he doesn't know how to access the state which has surpassed the GoD.

They might learn it off-screen like Super-Saiyan God. 2 2 2

Don't you mean Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

No way, they're adamant about not surpassing Beerus. MUI Goku is the perfect compromise, Goku's surpassed Beerus, but he doesn't know how to access the state which has surpassed the GoD.

They might learn it off-screen like Super-Saiyan God. 2 2 2

Don't you mean Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan?

Then they also showed-off the first God form later-on in the show. :mikey :mikey :mikey