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Super Saiyan said:
What is the brand? Do you drink milk?
It's a brand from the British supermarket Morrisons.

Think I answered this question to either GSM or ahill quite a few pages back. I generally don't drink milk often, mainly using milk more as an ingredient for other things such as tea or scrambled eggs, but do drink it on occasion.
 

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It's fairly funny as a song about a man pining for his ex and hooking up with her sister and the lyrics help sell how desperate and obsessive the character is. Not much to say beyond that.
 

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I know you pretty much despise the disney star wars movie like Pakl hates :pakl but if theirs one thing you like about them, what'll it be?
 

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Ultimate Cell said:
I know you pretty much despise the disney star wars movie like Pakl hates :pakl but if theirs one thing you like about them, what'll it be?
- Mark Hamill's acting is good, even if not by enough to save a bad script.
- Kylo Ren is an interesting idea in premise, even if his constantly flip-flopping personality gives him absolutely no consistency.
- Rey's theme is OK I guess.
- Special and practical effects are better than any of the pre-Disney movies.
- Luke trolling Rey with the plant leaf during her training was legitimately funny.

That's about it as far as scraping at the bottom of the barrel though.

Pocket-Gog~ said:
Thoughts on the immigration crisis in the EU?
An absolute mess that's sure to send Europe into chaos in the not too distant future. I'm in favour of heavily moderated immigration, when the immigrant has a thorough background check and their reasons for coming to the country are genuinely beneficial to the society; but that certainly isn't the case for the vast majority of migrants coming into Europe in the masses, as it's pretty clear that trying to integrate highly different cultures into another hardly ever works without a large amount of time dedicated to doing so and often just leads to those of other countries sticking to their own practices inside a country without any attempt at integration, to the point that many areas have become primarily towns of non-native cultures within countries (Birmingham and Leeds in the UK and a lot of areas France come to mind).

In other words, many areas of Europe are using any sense of national identity or unification, which can only lead to destabilised nations if not given heavy moderation and unless such major changes occur, it will just lead to conflict from within.
 

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Absolutely terrible. It can only exist as a reaction and opposition to whatever governmental system is in place and completely falls apart once its goal is achieved, giving it no real long term plan.
 

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So you're a pretty big supporter for monarchism, can you answer some questions about it? How would the government operate effective without risking nepotism and corruption? Wouldnt corruption be widespread since people who know the monarch favorable be assigned postitions they arent qualified to be? What if the monarch is a complete jack ass and decides to pass punitive laws against the people?and can monarchs work in modern times with how technology is nowadays?
 

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How would the government operate effective without risking nepotism and corruption? Wouldnt corruption be widespread since people who know the monarch favorable be assigned postitions they arent qualified to be?
That purely depends on the monarch in question. A reliable one will operate by a meritocratic principle or at the very least prepare those close to them into becoming becoming skilled for a position.
Nepotism is something that exists within all systems of power, not just monarchies. The majority of the world's wealth being held by a select few families and families acquainted with prior successes in politics such as the Kennedys and the Bushes have a far easier time rising into positions of power. It is a necessary evil as it comes as the result of the familial desire to help one's family or tribe flourish and that would be far easier to accomplish in a system where they know who will be their successor and the general line of successorship after that than with a system where their position is a temporary one to be replaced by someone unknown in several years' time who's duty it will be to clean up the mess.

What if the monarch is a complete jack ass and decides to pass punitive laws against the people?
That would depend on the punitive law in question. Some can be highly beneficial in making sure society doesn't become morally corrupt. In the context of the question, I'm assuming it's purely talking about the tyrannical nature. In that case, it would again purely depend on the state of the leader and whether or not his cabinet and inner circle can persuade him against any laws that would turn the system down the tyrannical route.
Again, this isn't a problem purely upon monarchies, however, as plenty of democracies and other governmental systems have given rise to tyrants, such as North Korea. Treating that as irrelevant to the current matter and just focusing on monarchies, the majority of time a law at the major detriment of the people will be due to either a monarch being too weak-willed to stop political corruption (eg. The child Emperor Liu Xie being unable to stop Dong Zhuo's rise) or from desperation due to a war compromising security and supplies. The latter is an expected response, whilst the former is indeed a flaw in monarchy. However, I wouldn't say it's a flaw that completely destroys the ideology when the pursuit of power is a constant throughout all forms of government and leadership.

and can monarchs work in modern times with how technology is nowadays?
I see no reason why technology would be a hindrance to the system. The middle eastern countries aren't that technologically behind the global superpowers, yet monarchy still prevailed in the countries that accepted it whilst the democratic countries had failures that produced ISIS. The only thing that would really be a hindrance in restoring faith in monarchism is the manner in which the modern education system tells the youth that monarchy = bad, democracy = good, but with the same system pretty much ostracising anyone who points out there are only 2 genders or that communism doesn't work, I think we can treat Big Brother's far-left messages with a grain of salt.

It's also worth noting that compared to democracies, which were a recent invention in the past few centuries that only came about through large and bloody conflicts such as the French and Russian Revolutions, compared to monarchy having been the natural status-quo that was accepted for all human societies from the dawn of civilisation until the French Revolution.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Ultimate Cell said:
How would the government operate effective without risking nepotism and corruption? Wouldnt corruption be widespread since people who know the monarch favorable be assigned postitions they arent qualified to be?
That purely depends on the monarch in question. A reliable one will operate by a meritocratic principle or at the very least prepare those close to them into becoming becoming skilled for a position.
Nepotism is something that exists within all systems of power, not just monarchies. The majority of the world's wealth being held by a select few families and families acquainted with prior successes in politics such as the Kennedys and the Bushes have a far easier time rising into positions of power. It is a necessary evil as it comes as the result of the familial desire to help one's family or tribe flourish and that would be far easier to accomplish in a system where they know who will be their successor and the general line of successorship after that than with a system where their position is a temporary one to be replaced by someone unknown in several years' time who's duty it will be to clean up the mess.

What if the monarch is a complete jack ass and decides to pass punitive laws against the people?
That would depend on the punitive law in question. Some can be highly beneficial in making sure society doesn't become morally corrupt. In the context of the question, I'm assuming it's purely talking about the tyrannical nature. In that case, it would again purely depend on the state of the leader and whether or not his cabinet and inner circle can persuade him against any laws that would turn the system down the tyrannical route.
Again, this isn't a problem purely upon monarchies, however, as plenty of democracies and other governmental systems have given rise to tyrants, such as North Korea. Treating that as irrelevant to the current matter and just focusing on monarchies, the majority of time a law at the major detriment of the people will be due to either a monarch being too weak-willed to stop political corruption (eg. The child Emperor Liu Xie being unable to stop Dong Zhuo's rise) or from desperation due to a war compromising security and supplies. The latter is an expected response, whilst the former is indeed a flaw in monarchy. However, I wouldn't say it's a flaw that completely destroys the ideology when the pursuit of power is a constant throughout all forms of government and leadership.

and can monarchs work in modern times with how technology is nowadays?
I see no reason why technology would be a hindrance to the system. The middle eastern countries aren't that technologically behind the global superpowers, yet monarchy still prevailed in the countries that accepted it whilst the democratic countries had failures that produced ISIS. The only thing that would really be a hindrance in restoring faith in monarchism is the manner in which the modern education system tells the youth that monarchy = bad, democracy = good, but with the same system pretty much ostracising anyone who points out there are only 2 genders or that communism doesn't work, I think we can treat Big Brother's far-left messages with a grain of salt.

It's also worth noting that compared to democracies, which were a recent invention in the past few centuries that only came about through large and bloody conflicts such as the French and Russian Revolutions, compared to monarchy having been the natural status-quo that was accepted for all human societies from the dawn of civilisation until the French Revolution.

Passing laws to prevent moral corruption is slippery slope. Culture,moral, and religoius beliefs change with each new generation. I agree that you shouldnt have degenerates in society but I also dont want sharia law. Also Democracy is an old system with links back to atleast over 500 B.C with athens and its direct democracy.
 

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Ultimate Cell said:
Passing laws to prevent moral corruption is slippery slope. Culture,moral, and religoius beliefs change with each new generation. I agree that you shouldnt have degenerates in society but I also dont want sharia law.
I agree, though there still has to be some balance and it's clear that the treatment of degenerates under democracy ends up being too lenient.
Also, the changing of culture, morality and religion doesn't tend to be as vast as that of technology or warfare bar occupation by a foreign power (ie. Britain's history in a nutshell). For the good portion of European history in the AD period, most of Europe had quite similar beliefs in all three categories until the so-called "enlightenment" changed all that (for the worse).

Also Democracy is an old system with links back to atleast over 500 B.C with athens and its direct democracy.
Traditional democracy, yes, but that is far different from what we have today to the point it's comparing apples and oranges. Also, it's quite telling on its "success" when twice it was interrupted by oligarchical rebellions, with Athens' requirement of voters being adult males with military training making it the prime example of an oligarchy.
 

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