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What do you think about this scene? Does it touch you?
 

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It was one of the best scenes in GT (and not just for the meme quality of Old Meng Kuririn). It helps show just how much Kuririn has grown as a person compared to the rest of the cast and helps highlight the fact that he is still Goku's best friend. The scene helps offer a conclusion to their friendship and is more meaningful than any of Super's attempts at both their friendship and Kuririn's growth.

Didn't really get emotional from it since at the time I first watched it I was only just becoming accustomed to the franchise and didn't watch the series in its entirety until far later, but I did still find GT's last episode fulfilling long afterwards nonetheless.
 

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You ought to finish GT at some point if you managed to tolerate any of Super. At least GT actually provides catharsis to some of his characters and doesn't have the entire cast plot armoured by an already established ending.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
You ought to finish GT at some point if you managed to tolerate any of Super. At least GT actually provides catharsis to some of his characters and doesn't have the entire cast plot armoured by an already established ending.

From the looks of it, GT allowed the cast to change, develop, and grow older as well. Super still hasn't even aged up Goten and Trunks.
 

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I now you have Manga SSJB as 1.25x SSJG, but do you think it's possible for the multiplier to be 2-50x? SSJB is SSJ stacked on top of SSJG, after all.
 

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Manga-wise, no. That seems overly excessive when SSG Vegeta was still able to react to SSR Black's attacks.
Anime-wise, it could be possible, since they make it pretty clear SSB is an absolutely different tier from SSG during the Kefla fight and what we know of the Broly movie.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
The scene helps offer a conclusion to their friendship and is more meaningful than any of Super's attempts at both their friendship and Kuririn's growth.
I agree 100%. Goku and Kuririn's friendship are portrayed immensely better in this scene than in any of Super's ones. Why do you think Super failed so hard in portraying their friendship, unlike GT? GT's had just a different weight to it.
 

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Probably because GT had far more of a focus on its story and characters, regardless of the execution. Super is far too focused on spectacle and fanservice to appeal to the lowest common denominator because that's what's been shown to be the more financially successful option.
 

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If Whis and Vegeta fused, do you think their personality would be similar to Sasuke (Boruto)?
 

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Haven't with Boruto beyond the special chapter where Sarada thought Karin might be her mother, so I wouldn't know if Sasuke's changed that much beyond being a discount Piccolo, but I'd say Whis' flamboyancy would make this a no, especially if it's the far less stand-offish Vegeta seen in Super.
 

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Who do you think should be the villian of the next Batman movie?
 

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Don't know and don't care, really. The DCEU is dead at this point and most of the villains have either been done to death at this point (Joker, Penguin, etc.), will inevitably be compared negatively to their TDK trilogy counterpart or don't have the qualities necessary to carry the conflict of a serious film.
 

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Rian Johnson, easily. At least Zack Snyder did a good job with the first 300 film. Can't point out a single work off-hand Rian did that was good.
 

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