Slug (Youth Restored) vs First Form Freea

[Pakl]

Slug before he went giant... Who wins?

 

[SIAD]

Goku said Slug (Young) had the most powerful Ki. M4 M3 is continuing, therefore Slug (Young)> Turles (Post Second Apple). Turles with the first block was more powerful Minimum feezer first form, then to eat the second block, made a further increase in power. Slug (Young) crushes.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Freeza gets slugged.
Post Fruit Tullece<Base Slug stated in the film.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Slug wins here.

 

[Pakl]

I dont think Slug is that strong

He was beating 90k Goku... I have him at 300k
Tullece post fruit should be in par with 1st form Freeza

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I dont think Slug is that strong
He was beating 90k Goku... I have him at 300k
Tullece post fruit should be in par with 1st form Freeza

Goku explicitally stated that Slug's Ki was distinctly different from anyone he'd faced before. Unless you believe Movies 3 and 4 to take place in different timelines, then Base Prime Slug would have to be >> Peak Tullece.

 

[Pakl]

Different ki doesnt mean strongest...

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Freeza gets slugged.
Post Fruit Tullece<Base Slug stated in the film.

Aaaaahh I see what ya did there lol.

But regardless I give this to Slug. Turles should've surpassed 1st Form Frieza after eating more fruit from the Tree of might. I put Slug (Youth) on the same level as 2nd Form Frieza.

 

[Pakl]

Slug being at 2nd form Freeza level is ridiculous

Tullece didnt gain more power imo and Slug at best surpasses first form Freeza

 

[Event Horizon]

Slug wins. Easily. He's stronger and managed to survive pretty well against M4 SSJ Goku.

 

[Lord Brofist]

By the time of Movie 4's release, Piccolo had fused with Nail not only in the manga but also in the anime as well. Considering that, there's a good chance Piccolo was considered to be his Post-Nail incarnate and in such a case, that's going to put Young Slug far above the likes of Piccolo and Second Form Freeza.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Different ki doesnt mean strongest...

Whilst that's true, the scene suggests that they're one and the same in this case. Goku also makes note of him being no match for Slug even after all the training he's done, implying a large gap between him and his previous self, which would elude more to a case of the Ki statement being a power one.

 

[Pakl]

By the time of Movie 4's release, Piccolo had fused with Nail not only in the manga but also in the anime as well. Considering that, there's a good chance Piccolo was considered to be his Post-Nail incarnate and in such a case, that's going to put Young Slug far above the likes of Piccolo and Second Form Freeza.

Ughh no, M4 Piccolo i not fused with Nail

The movie is based on the Ginyu Arc and Goku is 90k

Slug never lasted against SSjin Goku.. He got his ass raped...

 

[Pakl]

Different ki doesnt mean strongest...

Whilst that's true, the scene suggests that they're one and the same in this case. Goku also makes note of him being no match for Slug even after all the training he's done, implying a large gap between him and his previous self, which would elude more to a case of the Ki statement being a power one.

Previous self? Goku was just 90k.. Slug beating him doesn't make him all that tough

Also, I follow the theory that Old Slug is as strong as Ginyu as he is the leader of the characters who are based on Jheese Burter and Recoome

Goku stating he can't beat Slug doesn't mean anything.. Tullece Post Fruit wuld own him as well. The fact Goku never used Kaioken is also proof of him being able to take on Slug but the plot wanted him to be SSjin

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The importance he gave to the point of having gone through great training would imply he's vastly superior to his M3 self. I highly doubt he'd pay it much mind, along with the hopelessness of beating Slug, if he was still miles away from Tullece.

Your last point makes little sense, considering Goku stated how little of a match for Slug he was. There'd be no sense in Goku hiding Kaioken for absolutely no reason. If anything, it shows that the gap between them was great enough that Kaioken would only delay the inevitable, still not being a match for Slug.

 

[Pakl]

If the Kaioken would be hopeless then why did Goku used it on Tullece.. What does he have to lose? Goku uses the best he can anyway.. This is just illogical

M4 Goku >>> M3 Goku is true... That also proves why Goku in movie 3 is not much ahead of 30k but that's another thing...

You do realise Slug beat 90k Goku? Tullece after the fruit was at least close to 1st form Freeza so he can beat Goku too

It just makes no sense for Slug to be that strong based on his feats...

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The movie probably released in the manga before Porunga died.

 

[Event Horizon]

Slug survived with just a broken arm against SSJ Goku who is at least 4,500,000. Sure he didn't land a hit on SSJ Goku, but he got up like nothing happened.

If Slug was still weaker than 1st Form Freeza, SSJ Goku should've been able to one-shot him effortlessly.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I don't think Toei follow that logic.

 

[Lord Brofist]

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