Son Gohan vs Tao Pai-Pai and Akkuman

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p123 said:
I don't think that the group can be transformed freezer
The statements of them standing a chance still make it a more reliable comparison.

I doubt he needed the bean to win the Buddha guys, Krillin ever won a Budokai
And once again, an inaccurate comparison when the average Budokai tends to not even have competitors with power or skill on par with most of those in the 21st TB, let alone the other two Kuririn participated in. It's like saying Zarbon has skill comparable to or above Tenshinhan because the latter never beat Vegeta.

I was just giving you a hypothetical of the Power Ranges that I see matching up as an equivalent for this fight
Whilst what you say would line up in theory when looking at it numerically, actual feats paint a very different picture. Zarbon's performance wasn't something that the addition of someone fodder to himself aiding him would completely turn around, unless you were to assume his poor performance was the result of losing some Shoki or Yuuki.
 

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Tao's fight with Goku wasn't all that close in my opinion. Looked further away than Vegeta/Zarbon first fight gap. I'm remembering from Anime so maybe something that didn't make sense was added. Besides Tao's punches hurting Goku somewhat (which I remember being freebie shots), he didn't really do much. Maybe the Gap is similar to 1st Form Cell and weighted Piccolo or powered-up 2nd Form Freeza and Initial Piccolo with Nail.
 

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I thought their fight looked somewhat close in the manga. Like just outside rival
 

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Reread the beginning of the fight before two pulls out the sword and let me know ur opinion
 

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Yea, I'd consider Tao a distant rival. He's right outside of that range of being able to make it a competitive fight. You guys need to think about real world fighting for a second. If you have a guy you can dominate for the most part, but requires all of your effort to be on the ball, then what the hell do you think will happen to you if you have to deal with someone else fighting you. Even if you can handle them rather easily on their own, their aid to the almost competitive opponent is going to make it a nightmare.

If Zarbon and Dodoria can definitely beat Vegeta, I'd think Zarbon and Krillen (Post Guru Power Up) would still make it awfully difficult on Vegeta. Throw out Krillen's Kienzan and Taiyoken and all of that. Just Krillen with a battle power of over 10,000 and Zarbon's 21,000 against Vegeta at 24,000 is an interesting battle. I have to give the edge to the duo in my opinion.
 

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SSJ2 said:
Reread the beginning of the fight before two pulls out the sword and let me know ur opinion
If I can I let you know some other time and if I remember because I'm using my sister's phone and I don't know whether KissManga'd give it virus. :troll :troll :troll
 

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I will upload the fight
 

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2kewl4u said:
SSJ2 said:
Reread the beginning of the fight before two pulls out the sword and let me know ur opinion
If I can I let you know some other time and if I remember because I'm using my sister's phone and I don't know whether KissManga'd give it virus. :troll :troll :troll

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I think the fight depicts a 90% gap or so. Tao decides to get serious and charges at Goku with a kick. Goku blocks it -- albeit with effort -- then blocks his punch -- now we can't see his face -- and taking advantage of an opening manages to connect a kick on Tao's face, who seems really annoyed. Goku's happy seeing he still has the advantage against a serious Tao. This latter charges at Goku with a kick, who dodges, and then Tao does use the ground to throw himself at Goku, managing to finally a connect a punch, which visibly annoys Goku a bit, who then counter attacks punching Tao and using the ground to propel himself at the assassin and kick him into the ground.

Tao Pai Pai is visibly annoyed and decides to use his Dodonpa (by "now I'll get really serious" he probably meant the Dodonpa) and then, upon a lot of effort, Goku manages to block it (although his hand is still aching and a little burnt)... Tao wonders whether Goku's a monster and resorts to the sword, forcing Goku to use his Nyoi-Bo and break out Tao's sword. Goku then gives Tao the freebie, who connects many punches (the sequence of blows remembers me the attack Tenshinhan used against Goku in the 22nd Budokai, btw) and then finishes the attack with a blow that really seems to hurt Goku based on this latter's eyes popping up. Goku gets up with cosmetic damage, smiling and compliments Tao Pai Pai, saying those attacks hurt him... Tao is flabbergasted since he expected them to have more of an effect and can't believe what's happening. Goku then goes on to punch Tao into the gut (to which this latter is visibly in pain), karate-chops his neck and then kicks him into the ground. And then Tao Pai Pai concluded he doesn't have a chance against Goku in a h2h combat and resorts to the bomb, to which Goku, using an incredible speed, kicks it upwards, hitting Tao instead.


So that's the fight. Whilst Goku has obviously the advantage and it's folly to claim both were pretty close, I don't think the fight depicts a humongous gap given Tao still manages to land a punch on Goku, can hurt him with his sequence of attacks, gets complimented by Goku and forces him to put up some good deal of effort when defending himself from Tao's attacks.

I think Tao might be even closer to Goku than Zarbon was to Vegeta or than Kk Goku was to 18k Vegeta, so a 90% gap seems fair here to me. Goku's a couple of steps ahead of Tao, but Tao can still keep up the fight going for some moments.
 

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SSJ2 said:
2kewl4u said:
SSJ2 said:
Reread the beginning of the fight before two pulls out the sword and let me know ur opinion
If I can I let you know some other time and if I remember because I'm using my sister's phone and I don't know whether KissManga'd give it virus. :troll :troll :troll

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The fight does seem a bit closer perhaps but Tao still only gets one shot in on him and Goku bounces right back. But maybe I'm not seeing something.
 

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