SSB Vegetto (ToP) vs Jiren

[Pakl]

Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering how powerful LSS2 Kefla is, SSB Vegetto wins, possibly stomps.

 

[Keedounan]

Assuming the multiplier is the same as Kefla's, Vegetto stomps.

 

[SSJ2]

I think he'd destroy him with SSJG.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Merged zamasu and Vegito were comparable, then zamasu powered up to a state where Vegitos final Kamehameha couldn't destroy him. Jiren is stated to be stronger than that zamasu. So jiren obviously wins.

 

[SSJ2]

This is ToP Vegetto..

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

And? I'm not seeing why TOP Vegito would be drastically different than black arc Vegito.

 

[SSJ2]

And you're a faggot.

 

[SSJ2]

supersaiyangodgogeta is pretty much what would happen if Yo-shi and tosh were to make a child together.

 

[Keedounan]

And? I'm not seeing why TOP Vegito would be drastically different than black arc Vegito.

You know that Base Kefla is SSJG-tier, right ? Her LSSSJ = Genkidama and her LSSJ2 is UI-tier.

Vegetto would be far higher than that with thw same multipliers

 

[Keedounan]

supersaiyangodgogeta is pretty much what would happen if Yo-shi and Toshit were to make a child together.

Too bad I can't thank in this section...

 

[SSJ2]

I'll fix that for you. Nothing gets me off more than Keedounan liking my post. Give it 2 minutes and check again.

 

[Keedounan]

I'll fix that for you. Nothing gets me off more than Keedounan liking my post. Give it 2 minutes and check again.

Better. Thanks!

 

[Pocket-God]

supersaiyangodgogeta is pretty much what would happen if Yo-shi and Toshit were to make a child together.

Yikes, I wouldn't go that far.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

And? I'm not seeing why TOP Vegito would be drastically different than black arc Vegito.

You know that Base Kefla is SSJG-tier, right ? Her LSSSJ = Genkidama and her LSSJ2 is UI-tier.

Vegetto would be far higher than that with thw same multipliers

Except he isn't since he was at most comparable to LOJ merged zamasu whom is stated to be weaker than suppressed jiren in an even stronger form that Vegito couldn't damage. UI Goku was comparable to that jiren and ssj2 Kefla was superior to that level of power. So ssj2 Kefla is stronger than Ssb Vegito. How they compare in their base states is irrelevant.

 

[Keedounan]

And? I'm not seeing why TOP Vegito would be drastically different than black arc Vegito.

You know that Base Kefla is SSJG-tier, right ? Her LSSSJ = Genkidama and her LSSJ2 is UI-tier.

Vegetto would be far higher than that with thw same multipliers

Except he isn't since he was at most comparable to LOJ merged zamasu whom is stated to be weaker than suppressed jiren in an even stronger form that Vegito couldn't damage. UI Goku was comparable to that jiren and ssj2 Kefla was superior to that level of power. So ssj2 Kefla is stronger than Ssb Vegito. How they compare in their base states is irrelevant.

Which means, again, that the multipliers weren't the same as in FT arc.

SSJG Goku > LSSJ Kale and SSJ2 Caulifla.

SSJB Goku and Vegeta are ridiculously stronger.

So with the same multipliers, Vegetto stomps.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If anything, that'd just show that ToP Goku/Vegeta >> End of FT Arc Goku/Vegeta, which should be obvious given Vegeta's Rosat trip and overall better performance than Goku in the ToP in equal forms.

 

[SIAD]

If anything, that'd just show that ToP Goku/Vegeta >> End of FT Arc Goku/Vegeta, which should be obvious given Vegeta's Rosat trip and overall better performance than Goku in the ToP in equal forms.

So Goku (ToP) is >> Goku (Final Arc Zamasu)?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Given Kefla's strength, it seems like the only logical conclusion. Either that, or Vegeta's new strength somehow makes that much of a difference.

 

[SIAD]

Maybe Goku and Vegeta got stronger that year that they trained to face Hit. Then both kept their powers, until Vegeta trained in the Time Room.

Or maybe it's only thanks to Vegeta's increased power, which is apparently more than twice as powerful as Goku in equal ways.

I also think that perhaps the multiplier of SSJ for Kefla is far superior to the multiplier of SSJ for Vegetto. After all, it seems that the SSJ multiplier for Vegetto is nerfed, for while Kefla SSJ is like 50x its own Base and then, Kefla SSJ2 proved to be far superior to its SSJ.