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Yamcha said:Goku would have to decrease his power down to the weakling Vegeta to fuse. Then they'd get roasted.
But Vegeta is stronger than Goku during AA though.
Yamcha said:Goku would have to decrease his power down to the weakling Vegeta to fuse. Then they'd get roasted.
My bad, I was thinking this was Cell Games. If that's the case I don't think they stand a chance.Dr. Fearless said:Yamcha said:Goku would have to decrease his power down to the weakling Vegeta to fuse. Then they'd get roasted.
But Vegeta is stronger than Goku during AA though.
Really? You think the gap between Super-Saiyan Goten/Trunks and Super-Saiyan 3 Goku is smaller than that between Android Saga Super-Saiyans and SPC?Super Neko Majin Z said:Even if the fusion has Gotenks Pre's multiplier, Cell's screwed.
Fantastische Hure said:Really? You think the gap between Super-Saiyan Goten/Trunks and Super-Saiyan 3 Goku is smaller than that between Android Saga Super-Saiyans and SPC?Super Neko Majin Z said:Even if the fusion has Gotenks Pre's multiplier, Cell's screwed.
That's good.Super Neko Majin Z said:Fantastische Hure said:Really? You think the gap between Super-Saiyan Goten/Trunks and Super-Saiyan 3 Goku is smaller than that between Android Saga Super-Saiyans and SPC?Super Neko Majin Z said:Even if the fusion has Gotenks Pre's multiplier, Cell's screwed.
No, but I get Gotenks' power by putting his base in the ballpark of the SSJ2's and putting the SSJ multiplier on top of that. So his SSJ form is way stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
If we go by SSJ Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku, Gogeta's completely screwed. He's around where Perfect Cell was when he stomped Super Vegeta.
How?GreatSaiyaman123 said:Man fusion is really damn op. In my numbers SSJ Gogeta would be stronger than SSJ Gotenks pre at this point.
Fantastische Hure said:How?GreatSaiyaman123 said:Man fusion is really damn op. In my numbers SSJ Gogeta would be stronger than SSJ Gotenks pre at this point.
How can he be higher than Gotenks pre-RoSaT, though? Goten and Trunks are >>> Goku and Vegeta pre-RoSaT.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Fantastische Hure said:How?GreatSaiyaman123 said:Man fusion is really damn op. In my numbers SSJ Gogeta would be stronger than SSJ Gotenks pre at this point.
Like this:
Goku/Vegeta (Buu Arc): 3,600,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 3,600,000,000,000
Gotenks (Post Rosat): 9,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 9,000,000,000,000,000
Shin Buu: 8,000,000,000,000,000
Buutenks: 17,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000
So Gogeta is (Goku+Vegeta)*2,500
Android Arc Goku is 24,000,000
So Gogeta is 120,000,000,000 equal to Perfect Cell fighting Goku
As a SSJ he is 6,000,000,000,000
Fantastische Hure said:How can he be higher than Gotenks pre-RoSaT, though? Goten and Trunks are >>> Goku and Vegeta pre-RoSaT.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Fantastische Hure said:How?
Like this:
Goku/Vegeta (Buu Arc): 3,600,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 3,600,000,000,000
Gotenks (Post Rosat): 9,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 9,000,000,000,000,000
Shin Buu: 8,000,000,000,000,000
Buutenks: 17,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000
So Gogeta is (Goku+Vegeta)*2,500
Android Arc Goku is 24,000,000
So Gogeta is 120,000,000,000 equal to Perfect Cell fighting Goku
As a SSJ he is 6,000,000,000,000
What if their full-power has an effect on fusion? So Goku's Super-Saiyan 3 and Vegeta's Super-Saiyan 2, both of which are leagues above of what both Goten or Trunks are capable of indivually at that point.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Fantastische Hure said:How can he be higher than Gotenks pre-RoSaT, though? Goten and Trunks are >>> Goku and Vegeta pre-RoSaT.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Like this:
Goku/Vegeta (Buu Arc): 3,600,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 3,600,000,000,000
Gotenks (Post Rosat): 9,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 9,000,000,000,000,000
Shin Buu: 8,000,000,000,000,000
Buutenks: 17,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 18,000,000,000,000
So Gogeta is (Goku+Vegeta)*2,500
Android Arc Goku is 24,000,000
So Gogeta is 120,000,000,000 equal to Perfect Cell fighting Goku
As a SSJ he is 6,000,000,000,000
Metamorian fusion isn't a fixed multiplier. Gogeta is most likely ~ Buutenks who is almost 2x Gotenks even though the adults don't have such gap on the kids. Damnit, if we follow fusion dance as a fixed multiplier, we would have Gotenks post >>> Gogeta >> Gotenks pre.
Fantastische Hure said:What if their full-power has an effect on fusion? So Goku's Super-Saiyan 3 and Vegeta's Super-Saiyan 2, both of which are leagues above of what both Goten or Trunks are capable of indivually at that point.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Fantastische Hure said:How can he be higher than Gotenks pre-RoSaT, though? Goten and Trunks are >>> Goku and Vegeta pre-RoSaT.
Metamorian fusion isn't a fixed multiplier. Gogeta is most likely ~ Buutenks who is almost 2x Gotenks even though the adults don't have such gap on the kids. Damnit, if we follow fusion dance as a fixed multiplier, we would have Gotenks post >>> Gogeta >> Gotenks pre.
what do you think on the thread?Atem King of Nigs said:There's also no reason they wouldn't use SSJ2/SSJ3 with Fusion
A refreshing answer. Kind-of kewl to see honestly. Do you mean post-RoSaT Super-Saiyans that turn Super-Saiyan 2? Because a Super-Saiyan 2 never specifically went in RoSaT and trained and became stronger. In the Cell Saga, they trained themselves as Super-Saiyan and then turned Super-Saiyan 2.Atem King of Nigs said:I think Gogeta would lose. Fusing two guys weaker than 18 wouldn't produce someone on post-RoSaT SSJ2 tier imo