SSJ Goku and Kid Gohan's gap.

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Most of the debaters seems to have Gohan like 1.5x ahead compare to Goku. Your thoughts?

 

[Six Trails]

1.5x. It is good for spacing out the Boo arc Saiyans.

 

[Zippy]

1.35x gap for me.

 

[SSJ2]

1.4-1.5x is solid enough.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

1.25x gap. Anything more and Cell would realize he was in some deep shit.

 

[SSJ2]

Well he pretty much did, as he had to dramatically up his speed and power.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

Well he pretty much did, as he had to dramatically up his speed and power.

All he did was amp his speed. And he still wasn't scared.

 

[SSJ2]

-Cell takes the senzu bean and returns to the level that he fought Goku with. He has trouble hitting Gohan, and when he does hit Gohan it seemingly does no damage to him.

-Cell thought that he had actually killed Gohan when he blasted him in the pile of rocks. Once again, Gohan took no damage from his attack. So we can see that this suppression level of Cell isn't even enough to damage Gohan when he thought he had killed him.

-Cell raises his speed and is able to dominate Gohan. He was able to keep him down on the ground while the Cell Juniors were attacking the Z Senshi. Gohan tried attacking Cell once but was swatted away like a fly. Gohan wasn't necessarily damaged from the attack, but he was unable to get away from Cell, nor did he ever try again.

 

[ahill1]

75/100 seems perfect IMO.

Goku SSJ 90
Cell [vs Goku] 100
Cell [Real Speed] 120
Gohan SSJ 120

 

[Pyro]

I would rate Gohan a tad lower than 1.4-1.5x Goku, but it doesn't leave a whole lot of room for pre-Majin Vegeta and Boo arc Gohan.

CG Goku ~< BS Gohan <</< PM Vegeta =/< CG Gohan

 

[p123]

Ahill's chart makes sense to me. Buu Arc shit makes us stretch it a bit more but that's bullshit.

 

[Future Warrior]

1.5x works well for me

 

[p123]

1.5x definitely has a bit of stretch to it, how big is Cell's speed increase?

 

[Future Warrior]

A decent amount I guess, and still failed to cause much harm to Gohan.

 

[Future Warrior]

A decent amount I guess, and still failed to cause much harm to Gohan.

 

[p123]

Gohan 120
Cell ( Real Speed ) 120
Cell 100
Goku 90
Vegeta 60

This is probably as accurate as it gets.

 

[Victorious]

Good to see you have my boy Goku at 90% of Cell in their fight. And not the 83% crap you used to have. And yeah those are my exact numbers.

 

[SSJ2]

I think 1.11x is a little bit small.

1.15x seems perfect to me.

 

[p123]

I usually have Zarbon at 88% of Vegeta, so Goku being 90% of Cell seems to fit there well. But, I know you have Zarbon at an even lower percentage don't you? Vic always like to bring up that KKx2 Goku quits against 18,000 Vegeta which would be around 88%. I can go either way personally.

90% seems like a good range where Goku is still a rival more or less, but outclassed.

What do we do about Gohan and Cell's higher powers? I think this model is perfect for everyone to work with.


Gohan 120
Cell 120
Cell 100
Goku 90
Vegeta 60

That's a damn good model for anyone. Let's try SSJ2 Gohan, PC, Buff PC and SPC added to it.

 

[Jeff Styles]

1.33x for me.Gohan didn't take much damage from Cell despite going all out in speed.

MSSJ Goku:100
Cell(1st power up):110
Cell(Full Speed):133
MSSJ Gohan:133