Ssj gotenks (pre) vs Ssj3 goku

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Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”

I don't know if Piccolo would be saying this if Gotenks was that close to Goku. Goku just told Piccolo that he didn't think he could defeat Boo, despite Piccolo recognizing he had higher ki even though it was a lie. Piccolo would have to see Gotenks' ki as being a lot higher to recognize it as incredible after seeing SSJ3 Goku.

Also something to perhaps sway people into different fusion SSJ multipliers... why does Piccolo not know how strong SSJ Gotenks pre is after seeing Base Gotenks if the SSJ multiplier is the same?
 

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Also something to perhaps sway people into different fusion SSJ multipliers... why does Piccolo not know how strong SSJ Gotenks pre is after seeing Base Gotenks if the SSJ multiplier is the same?
He was seemingly more surprised at base Gotenks' power than SSJ Gotenks. When the kids fused as SSJ, Piccolo only noticed that their chi was really incredible, that is, it was on par with his expectations.
 

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But why would he ask them to transform again if he knew what they could do as SSJ?
 

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He didn't ask but he wanted to see them do it again because he wasn't sure what their power would be like.
 

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That's because it doesn't work that way. Piccolo had no idea that the boys Super Saiyan would be well beyond himself even though he saw their full base power at the Budokai. He even saw a suppressed version of their Super Saiyan, yet no one mentions anything. It seems the characters can be clueless about such things.
 

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