Ssj kid Gohan vs Ssj goku (cell games) and Perfect cell(suppressed against goku)

[SSJ2]

Gohan stomps them both.

Gohan: 140
Goku: 100
Cell: 110

71% and 78% gap respectively against Gohan. Dodoria and Zarbon are both above this vs 24k Vegeta, and that's the gap you need to win.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

 

[p123]

I think people overrate Gohan here. I never saw Cell being 70% of Gohan, that's a lie. Cell does a significant, but more of a minimal speed increase. It wasn't tremendous.

When comparing dodging feats, who's is more superior? Vegeta on Zarbon? Cell on Goku? Tien on Goku?

Gohan's dodging doesn't seem otherworldly, why can't Cell be 85% of Gohan here?

 

[Six Trails]

71% and 78% gap respectively against Gohan. Dodoria and Zarbon are both above this vs 24k Vegeta, and that's the gap you need to win.

"That’s a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not?"

Small nitpick, but I wouldn't say that's a bare minimum gap like your post implies.

 

[Pyro]

I don't think there's a consistent gap on that kind of thing. Gohan, Krillin, and Vegeta could "manage something" against 1st Form Freeza. Goku and Piccolo had no hope of winning against someone around 3x their power individually. Zarbon and Dodoria got wrecked individually by someone they were both around 90% of, but together they would definitely be able to win. King Cold wasn't implied to be anything higher than 100% organic Freeza, but him and Mecha Freeza could definitely take down Namek Goku...although Freeza himself might've already surpassed that level. A bunch of Super Saiyan 2s couldn't overtake a single Super Saiyan 3 tier opponent.

I think it's just whatever the plot deems possible/impossible at the time.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yup, it's all about the plot therefore fuck power levels.

 

[p123]

Na they pretty much make sense if you let them.

All in all, Super Saiyan Gohan is overrated as fuck. He is definitely not 1.4x Goku. He's probably 1.33x at best, Gohan's feats over Cell are not all that impressive, people just bump him up to make their levels works. It's BS.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

1.25 - 1.33 is best

 

[SSJ2]

What's bad about 1.4x? Cell - much stronger than Goku even thought his attacks had killed Gohan, yet Gohan took no damage from them at all. That's a pretty yuge lead over Cell @ Goku for Gohands.

 

[Six Trails]

I think 1.25x is ideal, but yeah I have to stretch it a bit to fit Boo arc gaps. It is what it is.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

I think 1.25x is ideal, but yeah I have to stretch it a bit to fit Boo arc gaps. It is what it is.

actually 1.4-5 is pretty nice

 

[SSJ2]

I think 1.25x is ideal, but yeah I have to stretch it a bit to fit Boo arc gaps. It is what it is.

Shut up Mikey, nobody wants to hear you speak.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Superior power...You sure about that?

Yes I am sure about that, Cell only had to use his real speed to completely and utterly outpace Gohan. He was still holding back in the area of strength.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Superior power...You sure about that?

Yes I am sure about that, Cell only had to use his real speed to completely and utterly outpace Gohan. He was still holding back in the area of strength.

Even after Gohan received a beating from cell,Goku states that gohan's KI hasn't fell down a bit.