SSJ Trunks gap over Mecha Freeza

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Really? That's surprising. In my scenario I have Piccolo achieving around 30% of his power he reached in the Androids Saga.

That isn't far enough way? Sheesh!

You have Android Saga Piccolo over 3x Freeza? Damn

 

[SIAD]

I like the idea of Future Vegeta becoming SSJ after Future Goku died, but over the years Future Vegeta got a little rusty. Meanwhile the other Z Fighters are still training or at least staying the same within those 3 years. I'd like to have Future Vegeta SSJ = Goku SSJ (Namek).

What about Future Vegeta Base? At least in Toyotaro's Manga, Vegeta doesn't have SSJ, but he's still more powerful than Future Piccolo.

How about this:

Goku SSJ (Namek) = Future Vegeta SSJ (Anime) >>>>> Future Vegeta Base (Manga) >= Future Piccolo >>> Vegeta (Arc Mecha Freezer) >= Piccolo (Arc Mecha Freezer) >= Goku Base (Namek) = Future Vegeta Base (Anime)?

 

[Power Level Guy]

You have Android Saga Piccolo over 3x Freeza? Damn

Yeah? I don't see how there's any other way besides that? Freeza is literal chump change.

Freeza 350
Mecha Freeza 400
Trunks 600
Yardrat Goku 750
Sick Goku 1,000
Piccolo 1,250
Androids Goku 1,500

This is literally like, moderate spacing, zero bloat lol

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Yeah? I don't see how there's any other way besides that? Freeza is literal chump change.

Freeza 350
Mecha Freeza 400
Trunks 600
Yardrat Goku 750
Sick Goku 1,000
Piccolo 1,250
Androids Goku 1,500

This is literally like, moderate spacing, zero bloat lol

You’re a bit of a bloater P, can’t run from that. Still, mine wouldn’t be so different. If Trunks = 600…

Yardrat 675
Sick 800
Piccolo 1,000
Goku 1,250

 

[Power Level Guy]

You’re a bit of a bloater P, can’t run from that. Still, mine wouldn’t be so different. If Trunks = 600…

I don't think I have ever bloated anything honestly. The fandom gravitates towards nerfing constantly.

Nothing in Toriyama's story telling is aimed at nerfing, he's the bloater, not me. If you think Toriyama is writing a minimalist narrative, you read it wrong.

You literally have the same scale lol. Except I have Trunks at 80% and you have 88%.

I don't think Trunks should be rivaling at all. I think Goku is head and shoulders above, we don't get that epic sparring for them to be rivals, neither does such a boost warrant all that glazing Trunks does imo. It's a solid gap.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

you think Toriyama is writing a minimalist narrative

More like he was just doing stuff at random. Just look at the power levels. Sometimes the gaps are pitifully small (Vegeta vs Dodoria and Zarbon, BoZ PLs) and sometimes they’re massive (Ginyu to Freeza, Goku and Nappa to the Z Fighters).

 

[Power Level Guy]

More like he was just doing stuff at random. Just look at the power levels.

It's not that he's doing it at random. He's a minimalist numerically, but he's a bloater narratively. There's a huge disconnect between his numbers and his actual story. He doesn't seem to realize it.

and sometimes they’re massive (Ginyu to Freeza, Goku and Nappa to the Z Fighters).

They are way more massive than 99% of the fandom thinks.

The fandom constanly nerfs feats. Like Cell and the Light Grenade. You are a huge nerfer with that one.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

The fandom constanly nerfs feats. Like Cell and the Light Grenade. You are a huge nerfer with that one.

We all are. Some for the sake of nerfing, others to keep the androids relevant to base Saiyans. I remember your nerfed Ki amps.

 

[Power Level Guy]

We all are. Some for the sake of nerfing, others to keep the androids relevant to base Saiyans. I remember your nerfed Ki amps.

My ki amps are accurate to the narrative. I don't think I'm nerfing many places. I think you nerf as soon as big numbers make you uncomfortable.

If you are limiting something to account for another portion of the story, that's not necessarily nerfing. You are providing accurate gap assessments given the limited spacing.

Like we did with all those Android powers. That is some tight spacing.