SSJ2's Maximalist DB List

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In contrast to my other list, this one will be trying to give the proper respect to certain feats/gaps seen in the series, as opposed to taking a more minimalist approach to makes things fit.


Beginning of Dragon Ball

Farmer: 5

Mr. Satan: 6.66

Pterodactyl: 12

Sabre Toothed Tiger: 15

Bear Thief: 24

Monster Carrot: 25

Krillin: 27

Yamcha: 36

Goku: 40
-Oozaru: 400

Gyu-Mao: 210

Triceratops: 215

T-Rex: 220


21st Budokai

Babasky: 24

Orin Temple Bullies: 32

Bear Man: 46

Shishiga-Ryu Kenpou Fighter: 54

Goku (no tail): 230
-Tail: 300
--Oozaru: 3,000

Krillin (initial): 140
-Full power: 200

Yamcha: 60
-Wolf Fang Fist: 70

Jackie Chun (Relaxed): 70
-Increased effort vs Yamcha: 150
--1st fast punch vs Krillin: 200
---2nd fast punch vs Krillin: 205
----Long exchange vs Krillin: 230
-----Full power: 295

Bacterian: 65

Giran: 175

Namu: 285

Ranfan: 40


RRA Arc

Colonel Silver: 70

Goku: 320

Metallic: 290

Murasaki: 180

Buyon: 245

Android 8: 450

General White: 6

~Post Muscle Tower~

Goku: 400
~Kamehameha vs Tao Pai Pai: 530
-Post Karin: 1,000

General Blue: 285

Krillin: 200

Pirate Robot: 260

Giant Squid: 265

Bora: 275

Tao Pai Pai (initial): 700
~Full power: 875


Baba's Tournament

Mummy: 330

Goku vs Mummy: 500
-Vs Akkuman initially: 630
--Full power: 1,000

Akkuman: 550

Son Gohan: 950
 
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Murasaki is too high seeing as he couldn't jump over a small pond.
He wasn't instantly overtaken by Goku's speed. I also think that pond was larger than it looked in some panels. The art wasn't consistent with the size of it.

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The distance actually looks quite reasonable here.
 

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He wasn't instantly overtaken by Goku's speed. I also think that pond was larger than it looked in some panels. The art wasn't consistent with the size of it.

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The distance actually looks quite reasonable here.
Yeah that's a big distance but I can't imagine Kuririn who jumped about as high as Tailless Goku before the tournament being unable to jump that.
 

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Possibly yeah. But he also did parry quite a few of Goku's attacks, even if Goku wasn't completely serious. And he's familiar with the after image technique which implies that he's quite skilled. I can see him being pretty close to Krillin.
 

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Increased effort vs Yamcha: 150
--1st fast punch vs Krillin: 200
Ok, now you got it, this is far more reasonable.


Yamcha: 60
-Wolf Fang Fist: 70
Isn’t it nice you can reach your top end powers without forcing Yamcha to get a multi-fold boost?


Goku (no tail): 250
-Tail: 300
Holy moly, you have 21st Goku aren’t getting quite close to Oozaru Goku, this is going to get interesting! Lol


Goku: 400
~Kamehameha vs Tao Pai Pai: 530
-Post Karin: 1,000
Ok I’m liking this. You made Post Muscle Tower Goku much stronger. This is high level stuff here.


Tao Pai Pai (initial): 700
~Full power: 875
Very nice, a solid power up without going crazy.


Mummy: 310

Goku vs Mummy: 470

Akkuman: 500

Goku: 1,000

Son Gohan: 950
Ok here’s the meat and potatoes for me.

Mummy is too low, 300 to 310 ain’t enough to justify “probably can’t win”

That’s a rivaling gap. It’s gotta be at least around 93% or so, 320-330 is better.

Include the Goku who was beating up Devil Man pre KO, should be like 1.1x Devil Man.

Oozaru Goku 400
Gohan 950

Not as bad as I thought it would be. This is a nice freedom list, right? Definitely worth doing I think.
 

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Ok, now you got it, this is far more reasonable
Yeah that was an oversight. Definitely didn't want that gap to be that small lol.

Isn’t it nice you can reach your top end powers without forcing Yamcha to get a multi-fold boost?
Yeah this is how I used to view Yamcha. I see no reason for him to be relevant to Krillin whatsoever... We're nerfing Jackie's gap over the WFF for some reason.

Ok I’m liking this. You made Post Muscle Tower Goku much stronger. This is high level stuff here.
Yeah I think it makes more sense. Muscle Tower is a true zenkai, his gains from that should reflect it imo.

Ok here’s the meat and potatoes for me.

Mummy is too low, 300 to 310 ain’t enough to justify “probably can’t win”

That’s a rivaling gap. It’s gotta be at least around 93% or so, 320-330 is better.
Sure.
Include the Goku who was beating up Devil Man pre KO, should be like 1.1x Devil Man.
Will add.
Oozaru Goku 400
Gohan 950

Not as bad as I thought it would be. This is a nice freedom list, right? Definitely worth doing I think.
Yep. This is the way it should be. Gohan is one shotting Oozaru Goku. Lol
 

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Added Goku vs Akkuman initially as a 1.15x gap. The gang was amazed by how easily Goku was dominating, I think it exceeds 1.1x.
 

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Did it exceed Vegeta vs Zarbon?
I mean Akkuman wasn't even close to being competitive... At best you can argue that he handled Goku's attacks without getting one shotted, but he clearly realized the gap was huge right away. Even Baba started screaming at him because he was performing pathetically.

But yeah, reading it I would say it exceeded Vegeta/Zarbon. Akkuman got rocked twice and never even had a chance to return an attack.
 

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I mean Akkuman wasn't even close to being competitive... At best you can argue that he handled Goku's attacks without getting one shotted, but he clearly realized the gap was huge right away. Even Baba started screaming at him because he was performing pathetically.
Oh ok yeah I’ve gotta look at this better.


But yeah, reading it I would say it exceeded Vegeta/Zarbon. Akkuman got rocked twice and never even had a chance to return an attack.
Ok awesome, looking to see what it looks like.
 

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Goku vs Akkuman initially looks pretty similar to Vegeta vs Dodoria to me. Goku is evading him leisurely and his two attacks are dishing out pretty devastating damage. I can see it being right between Vegeta/Zarbon and Vegeta/Dodoria.
 

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Goku vs Akkuman initially looks pretty similar to Vegeta vs Dodoria to me. Goku is evading him leisurely and his two attacks are dishing out pretty devastating damage. I can see it being right between Vegeta/Zarbon and Vegeta/Dodoria.
Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta?
 

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Looking at the scene, Zarbon clearly let Vegeta hit him or at least didn’t care about it.
 
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