SSJ3 Goku @Fat Boo

[Six Trails]

It might just be headcanon (though Super seems to support it), but I like to imagine that Freeza's less than 3/4 power is the farthest he can go in his "base" form, and that his 100% is a bulk-up power up similar to SSG2 and SSG3. I don't believe it's implied he was straining from his < 3/4 power.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Like i told FW, Freeza's stamina issues were awful and yet he has no problems to hold back.

I have no problems with the idea of Galu not putting his full effort into his punches, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. What I was arguing was that Goku can't outright suppress his Ki as a SS3. Effort and Ki suppression aren't always one and the same, as shown with Raditz.

 

[GSM123]

I have no problems with the idea of Galu not putting his full effort into his punches, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. What I was arguing was that Goku can't outright suppress his Ki as a SS3. Effort and Ki suppression aren't always one and the same, as shown with Raditz.

With "holding back" i meant suppression, not pulling punches.

 

[Super Saiyan Masta Don]

He's holding back effort, think Initial True Form Freeza.

 

[GSM123]

Added a poll to admnistrate better the answers. I wanna go deep about this.

Asking again, what's wrong with Goku holding back power? Freeza's full power was not much different from Super Saiyan 3: Strainful, hard to maintain but he could still suppress it and even get rid of the strain.

 

[Super Saiyan Masta Don]

No way can Goku suppress that monstrous power. He's just not displaying it all full force, if that makes sense.

 

[Kyo]

the only reason people give a shit is because they wanna talk about piccolo's line where he's like "you coulda killed him yeah?" and maybe something else idk

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I doubt he was suppressed. Goku just didn't try to finish Boo off. He said becoming a Super Saiyan 3 in the living world makes you completely exhausted all at once....and on top of that, he still wasn't accustomed to the form. Goku was still winded well after the fight had already ended, too. No suppression.

 

[ahill1]

I agree that he was only pulling his punches. I don't think he was actively suppressing his powers. It's possible that, by all out, Piccolo only meant "going to kill" though, but that may be somewhat doubtful as Goku still performed a KMHMH in the battle.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

but that may be somewhat doubtful as Goku still performed a KMHMH in the battle.

It wasn't a wide Kamehameha though, considering it pierced Boo's belly and nothing more. Galu most likely only did it to gauge Boo's regeneration.

 

[ahill1]

That's possible.

 

[GSM123]

Would be quite an oxymoron if this signature trait of the form could be removed.

Just wanted to point out something i noticed about this...

The signature trait of Super Saiyan is to surpass the limits of a Saiyan, what implies SSJ tier is a level a Base Saiyan cannot touch. By that same logic, it's an oxymoron for the Base Saiyans to surpass their former SSJ forms.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Holding back of course.

 

[GSM123]

There's this guidebook called El Manga Legendario and it says Goku was suppressed vs Boo.

Thoughts?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The signature trait of Super Saiyan is to surpass the limits of a Saiyan, what implies SSJ tier is a level a Base Saiyan cannot touch. By that same logic, it's an oxymoron for the Base Saiyans to surpass their former SSJ forms.

Not necessarily, since the idea of overcoming previous limits and top tiers has been a running theme in DB from at least the RRA Arc. Also, Super Saiyan lost credibility of having any themes or signature traits associated with it once it got rewritten into something that can be achieved by anyone with enough plot relevance/S-Cells.
SS3, on the other hand, is presented as depleting a user's stamina in every battle it was used in within the arc or at least hindering them in some way.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

What is the exact quote from that guide?

It still doesn't make sense for him to be able to suppress in Super Saiyan 3. The form itself is practically leaking Chi simply by being active. Goku himself even admits he wasn't used to the form.

 

[Pyro]

There's this guidebook called El Manga Legendario and it says Goku was suppressed vs Boo.

Thoughts?

No Japanese source, no go.

 

[GSM123]

What is the exact quote from that guide?

It still doesn't make sense for him to be able to suppress in Super Saiyan 3. The form itself is practically leaking Chi simply by being active. Goku himself even admits he wasn't used to the form.

Spoiler

Though like KP said, the lack of a Japanese source makes me skeptical about this. Though the entry of the guidebook does say they've worked closely with Shueisha...

 

[Pyro]

I'll wait for Kanzenshuu to find the original of that dumbass book. I might just have to Photoshop my own version of it and use it in arguments.