SSjin Blue Vegetto vs Beerus

[p123]

Yuck. Fuck that shit.

 

[SSJ2]

You'd get a good laugh out of this shit, p.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

In RoF, Whis even said SSJB Goku and Vegeta could beat Beerus if they teamed up, implying a Dodoria/Zarbon vs Vegeta sort of gap, so they were close. Then SSJB Kaioken x10 Goku still didn't surpass Beerus in the U6 torunament. Goku and Vegeta both got stronger in the arc after that, and their fusion with SSJB was still probably weaker than Beerus. It's retcon city.

Was that the movie version?

 

[Pyro]

Isn't Beerus pissed that he couldn't just go over to Trunks' world and waste Black and Zamas? I think the scene was after Merged Zamas lost his physical form.

I didn't bother with the episode, but someone mentioned before that Zamasu's incorporeal essence or whatever was seeping into the present and Beerus didn't shed one fuck about it.

 

[SSJ2]

In RoF, Whis even said SSJB Goku and Vegeta could beat Beerus if they teamed up, implying a Dodoria/Zarbon vs Vegeta sort of gap, so they were close. Then SSJB Kaioken x10 Goku still didn't surpass Beerus in the U6 torunament. Goku and Vegeta both got stronger in the arc after that, and their fusion with SSJB was still probably weaker than Beerus. It's retcon city.

Was that the movie version?

Ye

 

[Papasmurf]

Kaioken would've been alright had it been only a 2x Kaioken that's available, and only as a last resort. It's the fact that the multiplier used in its fucking debut was 10x that threw the power scale into all sorts of chaos.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

In RoF, Whis even said SSJB Goku and Vegeta could beat Beerus if they teamed up, implying a Dodoria/Zarbon vs Vegeta sort of gap, so they were close. Then SSJB Kaioken x10 Goku still didn't surpass Beerus in the U6 torunament. Goku and Vegeta both got stronger in the arc after that, and their fusion with SSJB was still probably weaker than Beerus. It's retcon city.

Was that the movie version?

Ye

Then its non reliable.

 

[Pyro]

Looks like Whis' line isn't in Super, so no retcon there necessarily.

 

[SSJ2]

He says toe to toe with Beerus, but the quote doesn't have his name. 32:20 into RoF.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

RoF movie =/= Super RoF.

 

[SSJ2]

Exactly, it's superior.

 

[Keedounan]

For now, I'd Beerus still wins.

 

[p123]

How can fucking Vegetto go Super Saiyan Blue and not be ridiculously stronger than everyone?

 

[SSJ2]

Potara is pretty well a negative boost now. Kaioken x2 Goku had similar fucking feats to Blue Vegetto.

 

[p123]

What in the flipping fuck. Why even watch that shit? All logic has been thrown out. Look at your gif! Vegetto going Super Saiyan Blue and it's terribly drawn. Looks like Nappa level fucking aura, unreal.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

What in the flipping fuck. Why even watch that shit? All logic has been thrown out. Look at your gif! Vegetto going Super Saiyan Blue and it's terribly drawn. Looks like Nappa level fucking aura, unreal.

Because nobody gives a shit about power levels like you and don't analyse the show lol. It's a Toei product like the DBZ anime.

 

[SSJ2]

I see plenty of people giving a shit about the absolutely atrocious power scaling in Super.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yeah the ''hardcore'' fans while the casual fans don't.

 

[Pyro]

How can fucking Vegetto go Super Saiyan Blue and not be ridiculously stronger than everyone?

You'd think, right? But nah. From face value feats, you'd think SSBKK Goku is on the same level as Merged Zamasu and SSB Vegetto, and let's not even get into fucking Superhero Trunks. In order to explain this shit powerscaling, you'd have to say Zamasu was toying with the Saiyans (nevermind the fact that he got pissed at Vegeta and Trunks, and then got half his fucking body blown off by Goku while clearly trying to overpower the guy), got taken by surprise by the Kaio-ken technique (sure, whatever), and then used his real power against Vegetto...and got even stronger when he went giant at the cost of speed.

Merged Zamasu (Giant) > Merged Zamasu (full power/Light of Justice?) > Merged Zamasu (toying/initial)

But, that leads to more issues, such as his initial power being stated to be "endless" and stronger than any God that Gowasu has sensed in his lifetime (which also leads to the debate about if he sensed Beerus' full power and all that jazz). If he was already THAT strong, then does that mean SSBKK Goku as well as the team of SSB Vegeta & SSj2 Trunks are also that strong? And if they're not, that means Zamasu formed into this amazingly powerful dude, and then silently suppressed himself for fuck-all reason...because he wanted to toy with the Saiyans...after becoming so desperate as to merge in the first place? Ugh.

I digress. Everything from Zamasu and Black merging up until Zamasu is completely erased is complete bullshit powerscale-wise, at least in the anime. We'll see if Toyotaro does anything differently in the manga.

 

[Papasmurf]

What in the flipping fuck. Why even watch that shit? All logic has been thrown out. Look at your gif! Vegetto going Super Saiyan Blue and it's terribly drawn. Looks like Nappa level fucking aura, unreal.

The aura's way bigger a second later, lol.