Super-Saiyan 2 Goku (Namek) vs Piccolo (post-Kami)

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku wins.

Who wins?

 

[Pocket-God]

Ummm....Piccolo one-shots?

 

[Tapion]

Piccolo one-shots him

 

[Papasmurf]

Piccolo rapes.

 

[Pocket-God]

Even if you have SSJ2 as 4 times SSJ I still don't see how Piccolo could lose this-

17 = Piccolo(Kami) =(or)> 18 >>> Android Saga Vegeta > Android Saga Goku > Yardrat Goku > Future Trunks >> Namek Goku

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Kamiccolo wins handily.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) - 12.5
- Super-Saiyan 2 (hypothetically) - 125

Android #17 - 100
Piccolo (post-Kami) - 107

 

[Diamond Ryan]

SSj Goku - 500
SSj2 Goku - 2,000

Kamiccolo - 2,400

^This is what I have. Weren't 17 and Kamiccolo stated to be equal?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

SSj Goku - 500
SSj2 Goku - 200

Kamiccolo - 240

^This is what I have. Weren't 17 and Kamiccolo stated to be equal?

Piccolo said #17's punches weren't all that, and still kept-up with #17 even well into the fight and when he was noted to tire.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also:

SSj Goku - 500
SSj2 Goku - 200

Kamiccolo - 240

 

[Tapion]

I think that with "SSJ" he means NormalSSJ

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think that with "SSJ" he means NormalSSJ

Well, Goku on Namek is Normal Super-Saiyan Goku.

 

[Papasmurf]

You may be onto something. Only Cell was only ever explicitly stated to be an enemy above Freeza. The rest just defeated someone that beat Freeza (1% Mecha Freeza)

 

[Fantastische Hure]

You may be onto something. Only Cell was only ever explicitly stated to be an enemy above Freeza. The rest just defeated someone that beat Freeza (1% Mecha Freeza)

I'm lost.

 

[Papasmurf]

^a comment only made after Cell's appearance. So yes, the other androids were just beating on weaklings, all of 'em far far below Freeza.

 

[Six Trails]

Piccolo wins, though it wouldn't quite be a stomp.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Also:

SSj Goku - 500
SSj2 Goku - 200

Kamiccolo - 240

Shit

As for 17/Piccolo, 18 did say that Piccolo and 17 were on par.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P8.3
No.18: “He really is tough. He’s on par with No.17.”

And while he said his punch wasn't very good, he complemented his speed in the same statement.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P5.5-7
Piccolo: “Your speed is pretty good...But your punch lacks weight.”
No.17: "What? Say, who do you think you’re talking to? I’m Android No.17, the strongest in history…”

I think it is best to simply leave them as equals.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

^a comment only made after Cell's appearance. So yes, the other androids were just beating on weaklings, all of 'em far far below Freeza.

You have shown me he light. I understand now.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Piccolo wins, though it wouldn't quite be a stomp.

Can you show numbers, if you have?

Also:

SSj Goku - 500
SSj2 Goku - 200

Kamiccolo - 240

Shit

As for 17/Piccolo, 18 did say that Piccolo and 17 were on par.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P8.3
No.18: “He really is tough. He’s on par with No.17.”

And while he said his punch wasn't very good, he complemented his speed in the same statement.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P5.5-7
Piccolo: “Your speed is pretty good...But your punch lacks weight.”
No.17: "What? Say, who do you think you’re talking to? I’m Android No.17, the strongest in history…”

I think it is best to simply leave them as equals.

@Kyo used to do a thing, where he switched their speeds and power. Piccolo's power-level would be at #17's speed-level or something. I think #18 statement can be just taken as fighting competitively, like even Freeza you could say fought almost on-par with Goku.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Piccolo wins, though it wouldn't quite be a stomp.

Can you show numbers, if you have?

Also:

Shit

As for 17/Piccolo, 18 did say that Piccolo and 17 were on par.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P8.3
No.18: “He really is tough. He’s on par with No.17.”

And while he said his punch wasn't very good, he complemented his speed in the same statement.

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P5.5-7
Piccolo: “Your speed is pretty good...But your punch lacks weight.”
No.17: "What? Say, who do you think you’re talking to? I’m Android No.17, the strongest in history…”

I think it is best to simply leave them as equals.

@Kyo used to do a thing, where he switched their speeds and power. Piccolo's power-level would be at #17's speed-level or something. I think #18 statement can be just taken as fighting competitively, like even Freeza you could say fought almost on-par with Goku.

But 17 also admits that they are on par power wise:

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P14.3
Context: after fighting merged Piccolo for a long time
No.17: “Heh. Even if our power is on par, it looks like a gap is starting to open up between our stamina…My energy is infinite, and never falls…”