Super Saiyan 3 boost

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It's probably not that complicated. Kaioshin is the only one who genuinely thinks Boo, Gohan and Goku are like "Sure I'm/he's stronger, but matching Boo?" and Elder comes up and says everyone is retarded.

This scene gets compared, but it's probably not the case. Goku had a whole plan about Gohan beating Cell and knew no one else could do it. Here it's not his plans, it's Kaioshin's, and Goku is trying to rationalize it. Also worth pointing out Trunks thought it was weird for Goku to be acting so blunt.

Gohan getting 2x stronger is more than enough to surpass Goku here.

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

Problem is, this translation is inaccurate. Goku says he doesn’t know who’s stronger.

Herms sometimes is incoherent in his writing, but equally, I can see your point.

 

[SSJ2]

The issue is if he is somewhat relevant to Majin Buu and if so, which form?

He should be a little below rivaling range of Boo, and it should be assumed that it's referring to his SSJ2 form. Gohan's proficiency with the sword in comparison to Goku lines up with this. He is still weaker than SSJ3 Goku by a decent amount but is far stronger in equal forms.

 

[FeatsofPower]

He should be a little below rivaling range of Boo, and it should be assumed that it's referring to his SSJ2 form. Gohan's proficiency with the sword in comparison to Goku lines up with this. He is still weaker than SSJ3 Goku by a decent amount but is far stronger in equal forms.

Ok, so this directly effects the size of the Super Saiyan 3 boost. How much stronger is Gohan than Goku? 2x? 3x?

 

[SSJ2]

Ok, so this directly effects the size of the Super Saiyan 3 boost. How much stronger is Gohan than Goku? 2x? 3x?

Don’t you think it would work backwards based on the SSJ3 multiplier?

 

[FeatsofPower]

Don’t you think it would work backwards based on the SSJ3 multiplier?

Sure. How about Vegeta's Final Explosion? What do you think that should be, it should definitely surpass Majin Buu for sure.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think I'm fine with a 50/4/5

Goku: 3
~ SSJ: 1,500
~ SSJ2: 6,000
~ SSJ3: 30,000

Fat Boo: 25,000

Majin Vegeta: 6,000
~ Final Atonement: 30,000

Gohan (Post Z Sword): 4.5
~ SSJ: 2,250
~ SSJ2: 9,000
~ Rage: ???

Even before Boo was awakened Goku was banking on Gohan's rage. I don't see why he'd change his mind now.

 

[FeatsofPower]

I think I'm fine with a 50/4/5

Goku: 3
~ SSJ: 1,500
~ SSJ2: 6,000
~ SSJ3: 30,000

Fat Boo: 25,000

Majin Vegeta: 6,000
~ Final Atonement: 30,000

Yep this is what I’m going with. It seems perfect imo.

50/4/5 seems great.

Gohan (Post Z Sword): 4.5
~ SSJ: 2,250
~ SSJ2: 9,000
~ Rage: ???

Even before Boo was awakened Goku was banking on Gohan's rage. I don't see why he'd change his mind now.

This is tougher.

Realistically Gohan should be like a 15 or so.

Hmm that might work.


Gohan 4.5
Ssj 225
Ssj2 9
Rage 15-20?

That might be perfect and we don’t have to make Gohan too strong.


I think I have Ssj Gohan = PC Full Power.

I also don’t like Gohan getting into Ssj2 territory.

So I think that works perfect and without Gohan having to make a mockery of Goku.

Damn dude, I think we got this sucker nearly perfected don’t you think?


Dude the fans are going to love this level of detail, it’s going to be amazing. A truly competent working set of power levels. It’s going to go nuts.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And Z Sword Gohan is irrelevant anyway. If you just ignore him in a list nobody would even care. Maybe he matters a bit in Super, but power scaling in Super is whatever anyway.

 

[FeatsofPower]

And Z Sword Gohan is irrelevant anyway. If you just ignore him in a list nobody would even care. Maybe he matters a bit in Super, but power scaling in Super is whatever anyway.

Meh that’s a quitters mentality. Every level is important to me. I’m trying to get them all as right as possible. I don’t need anyone coming behind me pointing out a ton of things I didn’t address you know?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I’ll be waiting for your Elder Kaioshin thread then.

 

[FeatsofPower]

I’ll be waiting for your Elder Kaioshin thread then.

Lol, are you talking about Elder Kaioshin's strength? There's some characters we have zero evidence on, my goodness.

 

[SSJ2]

Sure. How about Vegeta's Final Explosion? What do you think that should be, it should definitely surpass Majin Buu for sure.

Probably around SSJ3 Goku's level or even a little above. It needs to be far enough ahead of Boo as Vegeta was willing to commit suicide to take him out.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Probably around SSJ3 Goku's level or even a little above. It needs to be far enough ahead of Boo as Vegeta was willing to commit suicide to take him out.

So FE is 6 and Goku is a 5?

Vegeta was willing to try either way, it was his only option.

 

[Pakl]

4x fits perfectly with SSjin 3.

SSjin 2 Goku: 100
Good Boo: 120
Pure Evil Boo: 180
Fat Boo: 300
SSjin 3 Goku: 400

 

[SSJ2]

So FE is 6 and Goku is a 5?

Vegeta was willing to try either way, it was his only option.

Yes, something around that. Maybe 5.5 to Goku's 5.

True, but he didn't express any worry over the attack failing. He committed to it and was confident it would get the job done, as was Piccolo.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

SSJ2 Vegeta: 150
Good Boo: 200
Kid Boo (Toying): 250
Evil Boo: 400
Fat Boo: 600
SSJ3 Goku: 750

Pretty neat huh?

 

[FeatsofPower]

SSJ2 Vegeta: 150
Good Boo: 200
Kid Boo (Toying): 250
Evil Boo: 400
Fat Boo: 600
SSJ3 Goku: 750

Pretty neat huh?

Where did South Kaioshin’s power go if not into Mr. Buu?

 

[FeatsofPower]

4x fits perfectly with SSjin 3.

SSjin 2 Goku: 100
Good Boo: 120
Pure Evil Boo: 180
Fat Boo: 300
SSjin 3 Goku: 400

Good Buu only a little stronger than Vegeta?

 

[Pakl]

Good Buu only a little stronger than Vegeta?

I have Good Boo ~ Fat Boo (1st Power up), the one Goku thought they can beat if they fight together. It fits. Good Boo shouldn't be that much stronger than Vegeta.