Super-Saiyan 3 Goku vs Goku-Black

[Fantastische Hure]

Regular Goku-Black

Who wins?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

According to Trunks, Black keeps getting strong whenenever he fights him so I give this to Black.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

OK! Let's say this is his initial full-power.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Black seems to get stronger when Goku hits him as he stated in this week's episode therefore Black wins IMO.

 

[Future Warrior]

I don't know. We know Black wasn't going all out against SS2 Goku considering he was even stronger when fighting Trunks, and even then he probably was holding back.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Black seems to get stronger when Goku hits him as he stated in this week's episode therefore Black wins IMO.

Yeah, I mean keep it static.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

If that's the case then Goku might win by generating a KHH in a minute.

 

[Animelover5487]

I hope you aren't talking about the one that was giving SSJB Vegeta a run for his money. If this is Black (Pre Goku) then I'd say SSJ3 Goku. Future Trunks was either underestimating SSJ2 Goku or Goku was holding back when he said Black was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. As Trunks said that Black was only a bit stronger than vs SS2 Goku.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I hope you aren't talking about the one that was giving SSJB Vegeta a run for his money. If this is Black (Pre Goku) then I'd say SSJ3 Goku. Future Trunks was either underestimating SSJ2 Goku or Goku was holding back when he said Black was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. As Trunks said that Black was only a bit stronger than vs SS2 Goku.

Yeah, I'm talking initial.

Even-though since Vegeta most likely didn't use full-power straight-away there's really nothing that could say Goku-Black wasn't maybe only as powerful as Super-Saiyan 3 Goku.

 

[Animelover5487]

I hope you aren't talking about the one that was giving SSJB Vegeta a run for his money. If this is Black (Pre Goku) then I'd say SSJ3 Goku. Future Trunks was either underestimating SSJ2 Goku or Goku was holding back when he said Black was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. As Trunks said that Black was only a bit stronger than vs SS2 Goku.

Yeah, I'm talking initial.

Even-though since Vegeta most likely didn't use full-power straight-away there's really nothing that could say Goku-Black wasn't maybe only as powerful as Super-Saiyan 3 Goku.

Yeah I don't think Vegeta was going all out either but I think he was using enough power to at least one-shot a SSJ3. SSJR was stated to be Black's own power-up so it doesn't have to have the same multiplier as Super Saiyan.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I hope you aren't talking about the one that was giving SSJB Vegeta a run for his money. If this is Black (Pre Goku) then I'd say SSJ3 Goku. Future Trunks was either underestimating SSJ2 Goku or Goku was holding back when he said Black was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. As Trunks said that Black was only a bit stronger than vs SS2 Goku.

Yeah, I'm talking initial.

Even-though since Vegeta most likely didn't use full-power straight-away there's really nothing that could say Goku-Black wasn't maybe only as powerful as Super-Saiyan 3 Goku.

Yeah I don't think Vegeta was going all out either but I think he was using enough power to at least one-shot a SSJ3. SSJR was stated to be Black's own power-up so it doesn't have to have the same multiplier as Super Saiyan.

I read somewhere that Super-Saiyan Rose rivals Super-Saiyan Blue.

Last time Vegeta saw Goku-Black, he fought evenly with Super-Saiyan 2 Goku, so isn't it possible he came at him with a much, much lower power than his full-power Super-Saiyan Blue? But Vegeta also knew that Goku-Black was able to keep getting stronger, so I don't really know.

 

[Animelover5487]

Super Saiyan Rose is Zamasu's own from being in a Saiyan body most likely because he's a God. However, the multiplier doesn't appear to rival Super Saiyan Blue, otherwise SSJR Black would be hundreds of times stronger than Goku.

Vegeta was stunned by how Black blitzed him and thought even with his power-up he hould be nothing compared to a SSJB so I think Vegeta was fighting somewhat near full power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Super Saiyan Rose is Zamasu's own from being in a Saiyan body most likely because he's a God. However, the multiplier doesn't appear to rival Super Saiyan Blue, otherwise SSJR Black would be hundreds of times stronger than Goku.

Vegeta was stunned by how Black blitzed him and thought even with his power-up he hould be nothing compared to a SSJB so I think Vegeta was fighting somewhat near full power.

That does make sense, but isn't it possible the reason why Vegeta was so surprised by his blitzing was because he thought Goku-Black'd be much lower than he actually was? He thought at best he might be on-par with Super-Saiyan 3 Goku, but then manages to pull that on Vegeta.