Suppressed Piccolo ~ Humans

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Silly P i had the 375/360 long before you. I thought you adopted from me... Nowadays i'm going with a 500/480 though.

 

[p123]

Why do you feel the need to go higher? Didn't we talk about that? How strong is Vegeta and Initial Final Form Freeza?

 

[Victorious]

What about Goku's Kamehameha with Kaioken, Vic? Wouldn't it have killed Freeza and Vegeta if Goku had a >2x amp on his Kamehameha?

No I see that Very Nerfed in Kaiokenn. Just barely amplified. I've got Vegeta's Galick Gun though 1.5x.

 

[Victorious]

Btw I haven't made a battle power list in several years but last time I did it I had SSJ Goku 350 million on Namek.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1621863-victorious-fan-made-dragon-ball-battle-power-sent-ryoku-list/

 

[Victorious]

Where do you see the Spirit bomb in comparison to 50% Freeza? I think Goku's KHH in kkx20 is above 50% Freeza but well below the Spirit bomb. 50% Freeza is 75% the Spirit Bomb? He did lose a piece of his his tail and said he almost died.

 

[p123]

It's a great list. Only issue I see off the bat is that you have Yardrat Goku rivaling Sick Goku. That shouldn't be the case.

 

[p123]

I think that's fair. Putting the Spirit Bomb right below 70% Freeza. I'm going to use that, thanks. Your amplifications are still to high though.

Think about 50% Freeza hitting Super Saiyan Goku with the Death Beam. That's like a 60% gap right there.

 

[Victorious]

I have to edit that list. I don't think I've messed with it since 2014-2015. The later Cell arc is too bloated I notice. I'm good with initial Semi Cell being just 2x #16 and not 3x.

 

[p123]

Yea. You should edit it. It would give me someone's list to go off of. Not many people agree with as many things as we do.

I don't know why people argue about Trunks > Freeza. The dude literally states he would instantly take out Freeza and King Cold and to come at him with full power. He also states earlier that he knows everything about Freeza. Damn, the nerfing is real.

 

[Victorious]

Maybe Yardrat Goku could only beat Full Power Mecha in the Future with an Instant Transmission Kamehameha.

 

[p123]

Haha. The lengths they are willing to go to nerf some characters is insane. I don't get it. Damn, to claim to be able to instantly win, hell, we could make that gap bigger if we wanted to, but I think mine is pretty solid enough as is. You need to further the gap between Gohan 1 Arm and the Androids level because you have no accounted for Gohan assuming he could defeat the two of them at the same time.

 

[Victorious]

Maybe ill put him up a little higher but not much. Dodoria is 83% and handsome Zarbon is 91% of Vegeta and Freeza makes it seem they can beat him if they team up 10 out of 10 times. Since Gohan is considerably less confident than Freeza was they need to be furthur to Gohan than Dodoria and Zarbon were to Vegeta.

 

[p123]

You have Zarbon too high. Zarbon should be 87.5-88%, 91% is too high for that showing.

Gohan is more confident about beating the androids then Vegeta was about beating Dodoria and Zarbon.

Gohan vs 2 Dodorias sounds about right.

And don't forget, Trunks who is only a bit stronger than Gohan is confident in defeating 2 androids, knowing he is only slightly stronger than Gohan. Gohan should be right at that threshold and Trunks makes it a without a doubt thing. Androids should be 75% of Trunks or less.

 

[Victorious]

Yeah, its probably something like Vegeta vs 2 Dodorias.

 

[p123]

Yep...

Vegeta vs 2 Dodorias = Gohan vs Androids

Reecome vs 2 Vegetas = Trunks vs Androids.

 

[Victorious]

Did you see this list P? Damn you're #1.

Lots of legends in the top

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2279678-dragonball-community-hits-500-000-posts/#m40112069

 

[p123]

By a country mile too my friend. If this were DB power levels, I'd be able to take out the top 3 behind me with ease. Goku vs Ginyu Force style. Haha. Didn't know you were #4. Impressive. Fucking Skelter is that high, God Damn! Remember when Gogeta had so many posts no one could catch him, little ol P took dat throne woo!

 

[Victorious]

Man...it is indeed tough keeping Future #17 at 40% and not lowering him.

I've got to read that Future saga again.

I'm not dropping him to 30-33% power....I just can't do that. 40% is right smack in hte middle of half and a third.

 

[p123]

You are going to have to make a concession, one way or another. If you put Future 17 lowering than 40%, that's still technically keeping in line with that statement.

I don't see how you can make it feasible.

Sick Goku being 75% of Yardrat Goku is going to put the kibosh on the Future 17 being 40%. You just can't have it all. You have to make concessions.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why do you feel the need to go higher? Didn't we talk about that? How strong is Vegeta and Initial Final Form Freeza?

More a matter of the numbers looking nicer on the long run. I did had to do some uncessary bloat to get there.

I have to edit that list. I don't think I've messed with it since 2014-2015. The later Cell arc is too bloated I notice. I'm good with initial Semi Cell being just 2x #16 and not 3x.

I'd like to see you post a list around here, Vic.