Tagoma-Ginyu takes the gauntlet

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Tagoma/Ginyu is healed after every battle. How far does he make it?

1. Dabura

2. SSJ Gohan (Boo Saga)

3. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)

4. Perfect Cell

5. SPC

6. SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

7. Majin Vegeta

8. SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

9. SSJ Gotenks (Pre ROSAT)

10. SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT)

11. Super Boo

12. SSJ3 Gotenks
 

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He probably falls to Super-Boo in a one-shot. If he really is on-par with Ultimate Gohan then he easily clears.
 

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He doesn't even makes it past Cell. He's only capable of taking damage, not dishing it out.

#Tagomatherealprisonbitch

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Fantastische Hure said:
He probably falls to Super-Boo in a one-shot. If he really is on-par with Ultimate Gohan then he easily clears.

Yeah I never understood that statement. If SSJ Gohan was enough to knock a full powered Tagoma on his ass in two blows then I don't understand how Tagoma can have power rivaling Gohan at his best. This was before Tagoma powered-up though so maybe Gohan was just making a really idiotic estimate.
 

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According to Gohan, Tagoma is as powerful as him at his best, yet he gets downed by a headbutt from SSj Gotenks. Even though it was to the crotch, he still didn't manage to get out of the way in time. I'd say Super Boo one shots the stronger Tagoma-Ginyu.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
He probably falls to Super-Boo in a one-shot. If he really is on-par with Ultimate Gohan then he easily clears.

Yeah I never understood that statement. If SSJ Gohan was enough to knock a full powered Tagoma on his ass in two blows then I don't understand how Tagoma can have power rivaling Gohan at his best. This was before Tagoma powered-up though so maybe Gohan was just making a really idiotic estimate.
Yeah, that's possible or Gohan just pushed himself way past his limits with Super-Saiyan. He is lower than his ultimate power-up, but he might still be able to go Super-Saiyan which could be very straining for him but can push him beyond his limits.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Animelover5487 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
He probably falls to Super-Boo in a one-shot. If he really is on-par with Ultimate Gohan then he easily clears.

Yeah I never understood that statement. If SSJ Gohan was enough to knock a full powered Tagoma on his ass in two blows then I don't understand how Tagoma can have power rivaling Gohan at his best. This was before Tagoma powered-up though so maybe Gohan was just making a really idiotic estimate.
Yeah, that's possible or Gohan just pushed himself way past his limits with Super-Saiyan. He is lower than his ultimate power-up, but he might still be able to go Super-Saiyan which could be very straining for him but can push him beyond his limits.

Are you saying SSJ Gohan > Ultimate Gohan?
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Animelover5487 said:
Yeah I never understood that statement. If SSJ Gohan was enough to knock a full powered Tagoma on his ass in two blows then I don't understand how Tagoma can have power rivaling Gohan at his best. This was before Tagoma powered-up though so maybe Gohan was just making a really idiotic estimate.
Yeah, that's possible or Gohan just pushed himself way past his limits with Super-Saiyan. He is lower than his ultimate power-up, but he might still be able to go Super-Saiyan which could be very straining for him but can push him beyond his limits.

Are you saying SSJ Gohan > Ultimate Gohan?
I'm not sure. I'm just saying it's a possibility. Wouldn't you say?
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Animelover5487 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Yeah, that's possible or Gohan just pushed himself way past his limits with Super-Saiyan. He is lower than his ultimate power-up, but he might still be able to go Super-Saiyan which could be very straining for him but can push him beyond his limits.

Are you saying SSJ Gohan > Ultimate Gohan?
I'm not sure. I'm just saying it's a possibility. Wouldn't you say?

Gohan is suppose to be really rusty so I can't see that being possible. Also, that would make First Form Freeza ridiculously powerful and I don't think Freeza would use his final form on Goku right off the bat when he knew Goku was only stronger than Majin Boo if he was that powerful in just his first form.
 

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It is kind of difficult to place Tagoma-Ginyu near Ultimate Gohan level since he got his ass handed by SSJ Gohan. I put him in between Evil Boo and Ultimate Gohan. He clears the gauntlet with some difficulty against Boo and Gotenks.

Animelover5487 said:
Gohan is suppose to be really rusty so I can't see that being possible. Also, that would make First Form Freeza ridiculously powerful and I don't think Freeza would use his final form on Goku right off the bat when he knew Goku was only stronger than Majin Boo if he was that powerful in just his first form.

But Freeza did uses his final form against Goku right off the bat as he told him he wouldn't mske the same mistake he did on Namek. Freeza doesn't exactly know how strong Boo is. Only that his father warns him to stays away from Boo and Beerus. He only fought Beerus before, well rather piss him off then got his ass kicked by him.
 

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He gets all the way to 11 and loses.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Animelover5487 said:
Are you saying SSJ Gohan > Ultimate Gohan?
I'm not sure. I'm just saying it's a possibility. Wouldn't you say?

Gohan is suppose to be really rusty so I can't see that being possible. Also, that would make First Form Freeza ridiculously powerful and I don't think Freeza would use his final form on Goku right off the bat when he knew Goku was only stronger than Majin Boo if he was that powerful in just his first form.
He seemed to be unsure whether he can use Super-Saiyan or not. He also doesn't seem to be able to hold on to that for a long time. I think it can make sense, but I'm not sure.
 

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Jeff Styles said:
It is kind of difficult to place Tagoma-Ginyu near Ultimate Gohan level since he got his ass handed by SSJ Gohan. I put him in between Evil Boo and Ultimate Gohan. He clears the gauntlet with some difficulty against Boo and Gotenks.

Animelover5487 said:
Gohan is suppose to be really rusty so I can't see that being possible. Also, that would make First Form Freeza ridiculously powerful and I don't think Freeza would use his final form on Goku right off the bat when he knew Goku was only stronger than Majin Boo if he was that powerful in just his first form.

But Freeza did uses his final form against Goku right off the bat as he told him he wouldn't mske the same mistake he did on Namek. Freeza doesn't exactly know how strong Boo is. Only that his father warns him to stays away from Boo and Beerus. He only fought Beerus before, well rather piss him off then got his ass kicked by him.

It's called author's intent, that statement was intended to make Final Form Freeza a threat greater than Majin Boo but sadly due to Goku's god training his base alone surpasses that level of power. When was it ever stated he fought Beerus either? First Form Freeza is under SSJ Gotenks imo. Why else would the writers have Gotenks conveniently defuse before he can really fight?
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Jeff Styles said:
It is kind of difficult to place Tagoma-Ginyu near Ultimate Gohan level since he got his ass handed by SSJ Gohan. I put him in between Evil Boo and Ultimate Gohan. He clears the gauntlet with some difficulty against Boo and Gotenks.

Animelover5487 said:
Gohan is suppose to be really rusty so I can't see that being possible. Also, that would make First Form Freeza ridiculously powerful and I don't think Freeza would use his final form on Goku right off the bat when he knew Goku was only stronger than Majin Boo if he was that powerful in just his first form.

But Freeza did uses his final form against Goku right off the bat as he told him he wouldn't mske the same mistake he did on Namek. Freeza doesn't exactly know how strong Boo is. Only that his father warns him to stays away from Boo and Beerus. He only fought Beerus before, well rather piss him off then got his ass kicked by him.

It's called author's intent, that statement was intended to make Final Form Freeza a threat greater than Majin Boo but sadly due to Goku's god training his base alone surpasses that level of power. When was it ever stated he fought Beerus either? First Form Freeza is under SSJ Gotenks imo. Why else would the writers have Gotenks conveniently defuse before he can really fight?

Akira Toriyama’s Inside Story: What’s the relationship between Beerus and Freeza?

Even Freeza is no match for the God of Destruction Beerus, no matter what he does! Since they both destroy stuff, they got along reasonably well, but one time Freeza had his clock cleaned when he got carried away and made Beerus angry.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/volume-f-akira-toriyama-script-comments/


To continued to not have him fight because the Z Warriors didn't wants him to gets involved. Despite themselves (minus Gohan) are all weaker than him amd none of them had any issue with him fighting Boo. The whole thing is just confusion imo.
 

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