Top 10 One Piece Arcs
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Thriller Bark has a good sense of mystery and was different if that also helps. It's pretty underrated. Just because it came right after the greatest One Piece arc of all time doesn't mean it sucks. Kuma and even Moriah were awesome.
I used to be too hard on East Blue Arcs and early One Piece Arcs in general. They're not THAT bad, just underwhelming compared to the rest of the Grand Line.
Arlong Park is not really the best Arc pre-Alabasta. One Piece Arcs before Alabasta got progressively better until it finally peaked during the greatness that was Alabasta, the second best One Piece Arc.
I've also been too forgiving toward Part II pre-Zou, especially Dressrosa, even though it's better than the first two Arcs. Top 15 for Dressrosa is definitely more realistic. Punk Hazard is top 20 and Fishman Island is top 25.
Dressrosa and Punk Hazard have many of the flaws Marineford had and lack the tense atmosphere considering they were supposed to be adventure Arcs like Alabasta and the Baroque Works Arcs before it, and not war/battle Arcs like Marineford. They were very poorly structured because of that.
Fishman Island could have been a lot like Sabaody Archipelago, but ended up being a piss poor man's Skypiea, and had even worse pacing to boot. It's just barely better than Davy Back because of that, which is Manga filler.
I used to be too hard on East Blue Arcs and early One Piece Arcs in general. They're not THAT bad, just underwhelming compared to the rest of the Grand Line.
Arlong Park is not really the best Arc pre-Alabasta. One Piece Arcs before Alabasta got progressively better until it finally peaked during the greatness that was Alabasta, the second best One Piece Arc.
I've also been too forgiving toward Part II pre-Zou, especially Dressrosa, even though it's better than the first two Arcs. Top 15 for Dressrosa is definitely more realistic. Punk Hazard is top 20 and Fishman Island is top 25.
Dressrosa and Punk Hazard have many of the flaws Marineford had and lack the tense atmosphere considering they were supposed to be adventure Arcs like Alabasta and the Baroque Works Arcs before it, and not war/battle Arcs like Marineford. They were very poorly structured because of that.
Fishman Island could have been a lot like Sabaody Archipelago, but ended up being a piss poor man's Skypiea, and had even worse pacing to boot. It's just barely better than Davy Back because of that, which is Manga filler.
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No one said it sucks because it came after the best arc. It lacks critical plot points (the only post East Blue arc to be guilty of this), it introduces the worst StrawHat imo, the fight with the giant was poorly mapped out, and at this point it feels more and more like the Florian Triangle beast thing's been forgotten about. It also introduced the "salt has sea energy" plot point, which Oda has not been consistent in portraying and building into his world.
Moriah was fine albeit more cookie cutter than most of the warlords. The fact that his introduction leads to the introduction of some of OP's few plot holes lowers my opinion of him.
Arlong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything East Blue imo, what makes you say otherwise? Just curious.
Moriah was fine albeit more cookie cutter than most of the warlords. The fact that his introduction leads to the introduction of some of OP's few plot holes lowers my opinion of him.
Arlong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything East Blue imo, what makes you say otherwise? Just curious.
Hell of an understatement
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Thriller Bark is just a bit self contained, that's all. It actually has a great and creative story regardless anyway, and part of what makes One Piece so great is that the world is so whacky. I agree that Brook is the worst Straw Hat but the Straw Hats aren't really that well developed since Part II besides Sanji. The rest of the flaws you pointed out are more trivial. You really have a bad habit of nitpicking flaws even if they're occasionally trivial.
Moriah is really one of the best Warlords along with Crocodile, Blackbeard, and Kuma. The rest are all inferior. I wouldn't really pay mind to his zombies being immune to the sun so much, as Marineford had more inconsistencies than most Part I One Piece Arcs anyway, even Thriller Bark, which you seem to greatly dislike.
Arlong Park is really overrated. As I said, the Arcs before Alabasta kept getting better. No One Piece Arc before Alabasta was outstanding or anything, not even the Baroque Works Arcs which had a lot more worldbuilding than any East Blue Arc, including even Arlong Park which introduced Fishmen. Nami's backstory was sad sure, but so were the rest of the Straw Hats' except maybe Usopp's. Brook's, Robin's, Chopper's, and even Franky's are worse. Sanji's has potential to be sadder too.
... Not even sure why you quoted that abstract statement, considering we both agree that the flaws Dressrosa and Punk Hazard share with Marineford are a lot more magnified.
Moriah is really one of the best Warlords along with Crocodile, Blackbeard, and Kuma. The rest are all inferior. I wouldn't really pay mind to his zombies being immune to the sun so much, as Marineford had more inconsistencies than most Part I One Piece Arcs anyway, even Thriller Bark, which you seem to greatly dislike.
Arlong Park is really overrated. As I said, the Arcs before Alabasta kept getting better. No One Piece Arc before Alabasta was outstanding or anything, not even the Baroque Works Arcs which had a lot more worldbuilding than any East Blue Arc, including even Arlong Park which introduced Fishmen. Nami's backstory was sad sure, but so were the rest of the Straw Hats' except maybe Usopp's. Brook's, Robin's, Chopper's, and even Franky's are worse. Sanji's has potential to be sadder too.
... Not even sure why you quoted that abstract statement, considering we both agree that the flaws Dressrosa and Punk Hazard share with Marineford are a lot more magnified.
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I'm not being serious with the last bit.
I'm fine with a self-contained arc (Arlong). It really isn't all that self-contained anyway since it somewhat sets up Marineford. I do appreciate that it tried something new. It is pretty entertaining prior to the high point of the rising action/climax.
Oh well if you mean post-East Blue then whatever. I still disagree that the likes of Baroque Works or Little Garden are better than Arlong though. Probably also the Wapol one, purely because I think Wapol is one of the worst villains in the series.
Well just being sad isn't good on its own. Although I think the comparisons you draw are unfair since those all happened after East Blue. I'm just saying Arlong is the best in East Blue. I still think it's better than a lot of arcs post-EB, but I understand the opposing viewpoint there a lot better so I won't linger on that point much.
I'm fine with a self-contained arc (Arlong). It really isn't all that self-contained anyway since it somewhat sets up Marineford. I do appreciate that it tried something new. It is pretty entertaining prior to the high point of the rising action/climax.
They were all at least well done when they had their moment in the sun. Brook just didn't, I don't think. I have problems with most of the cast in Part II, but at least I've had a chance to like the rest. I never had that with Brook.
I disagree. The Florian Triangle beast was alluded to several times in that arc and, in a world like OP, you can't introduce something on that scale and just forget about it imo. I am of course reserving judgement until later though, since there is still time. Also, I can't write off my issues with the climax of a whole arc as "trivial" man.
I dunno. I liked Doflamingo better. Hancock I'm not a big fan of, but her past lends itself to fleshing out the world better than Moriah's. Moriah's understated backstory also feels incredibly unimpressive compared to Crocodile's, one which we continue to gain insight into every time he is on-panel. Mihawk, I reserve judgement on as we haven't seen him enough.
Oh well if you mean post-East Blue then whatever. I still disagree that the likes of Baroque Works or Little Garden are better than Arlong though. Probably also the Wapol one, purely because I think Wapol is one of the worst villains in the series.
Well just being sad isn't good on its own. Although I think the comparisons you draw are unfair since those all happened after East Blue. I'm just saying Arlong is the best in East Blue. I still think it's better than a lot of arcs post-EB, but I understand the opposing viewpoint there a lot better so I won't linger on that point much.
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Yeah I'm with you on that. But that blow is softened by the fact that Oda seemed aware and tried to write around it, in my eyes. Still a lapse in Oda's planning, and it retroactively lowered by opinion of Alabasta a bit more (I already had issues with how Croc lost before - still a great arc though).
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Well I think Dressrosa is better than most things East Blue maybe. FI and PH contain important plot points but apart from that they're just not well written. The issues with East Blue stem largely from it being a rather lengthy 'introductory' portion I think. FI/PH doesn't really have that excuse.
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Yeah, I can appreciate a couple Arcs in East Blue like Arlong Park and Loguetown. Dressrosa might be better than any East Blue Arc, but Fishman Island is also worse than any East Blue Arc. That just shows that East Blue was able to keep more consistency at least.
