Ultimate Gohan was flabbergasted by Oob/Pure Boo

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku is trash that happened to be on-par with Kid Boo before he absorbs the God Power. New evidence doesn't say anything other than the Saiyans will have to raise their powers in Base when training with Whis. They do just that and are stated to be a lot stronger by Beers. Whether Beers could easily defeat that has no relevance on how much stronger they were than before.

None of this changes the fact that both Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Kid Boo are trash by Super's standards. Their powers are irrelevant.
 

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Whis affirms Base Goku (Post-God) isn't anything special. Afterwards, Vegeta says they are almost at their limits and won't improve much more. Db Super brought in Oob, they haven't forgotten about him. So when Goku Base (Post-God) fights him in Db Super and has a hard time, will you kiss my ass?

There is no reason that their powers aren't irrelevant. Goku Super Saiyan God was irrelevant to Beerus the entire time.
 

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Saylé said:
Whis affirms Base Goku (Post-God) isn't anything special.

Super Saiyan 3 Goku is portrayed as less than trash.

Afterwards, Vegeta says they are almost at their limits and won't improve much more.

Then later admits he could feel his growth in power after sparring with Goku. The growth was alone got Vegeta excited to participate in the upcoming tournament.

Db Super brought in Oob, they haven't forgotten about him. So when Goku Base (Post-God) fights him in Db Super and has a hard time, will you kiss my ass?

You're speaking on an unknown. We don't know how the End of Z will look, so that little battle hardly matters. It's a mirror of Vegeta/Cabba where the former could've destroyed the opposition from the get go had he wanted to.

There is no reason that their powers aren't irrelevant. Goku Super Saiyan God was irrelevant to Beerus the entire time.

Super Saiyan God is superior 3, which means 3 is bottom of the barrel status along with Kid Boo.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Saylé said:
Whis affirms Base Goku (Post-God) isn't anything special.

Super Saiyan 3 Goku is portrayed as less than trash.

Afterwards, Vegeta says they are almost at their limits and won't improve much more.

Then later admits he could feel his growth in power after sparring with Goku. The growth was alone got Vegeta excited to participate in the upcoming tournament.

Db Super brought in Oob, they haven't forgotten about him. So when Goku Base (Post-God) fights him in Db Super and has a hard time, will you kiss my ass?

You're speaking on an unknown. We don't know how the End of Z will look, so that little battle hardly matters. It's a mirror of Vegeta/Cabba where the former could've destroyed the opposition from the get go had he wanted to.

There is no reason that their powers aren't irrelevant. Goku Super Saiyan God was irrelevant to Beerus the entire time.

Super Saiyan God is superior 3, which means 3 is bottom of the barrel status along with Kid Boo.
Goku Super Saiyan God has been revealed to be trash in comparison to Beerus. So arguing that Goku SSj3 is trash, doesn't mean anything now.

Goku stated that he's still excited to fight him. Goku only gets excited to fight against strong opponents not weaker ones, so your speculative conjecture goes against several interviews from Akira Toriyama and what we know of Goku's characteristic traits.
 

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If Super Saiyan 3 Goku=Kid Boo, and Base Goku=Oob, then yes, it means a lot. It means your assessment on the End of Z is wrong.

Call it what you will, but Super has shown us that Super Saiyan 3 power is irrelevant. The form is discarded altogether, so.
 

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Incorrect, it means the alternative, Goku was clearly losing his fight against Oob.

Goku Super Saiyan God Blue has been revealed to be irrelevant in comparison to Beerus. So your secondary argument is moot.
 

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You keep saying Super Saiyan God is nothing to Beers while conveniently ignoring that Super Vegito and Gohan Boo are just as irrelevant compared to Super Saiyan God. Guess what? Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Kid Boo are both irrelevant to all of the above.

So your entire argument is moot.
 

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If Goku Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Blue are irrelevant to Beerus, doesn't that mean Super Saiyan 3 is as well? Well obviously, duh. But you can't say that Super Saiyan 3 is irrelevant, so Oob is irrelevant to Goku. What the fuck? Goku still has his Base transformation which is what he fought Oob as.
 

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Oob is irrelevant because Goku is holding-back just to see where he's at. In other words, if Goku was serious, he'd knock Oob the fuck out. This is no different than Vegeta and Cabba's battle. Goku says he wanted to see Oob cut loose, so that much is clear.
 

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Goku isn't implied to be holding back, he was losing the fight.
 

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Some young no name kid is challenging Goku, why would he not be surprised? Sometimes you look way too hard into things to make Goku the strongest and everyone else weak. It's irksome.
 

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Are you trying to troll, because this is the trollest logic I've ever seen.

There's no way this should be a 3 page topic.
 

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"Sorry about those insults. I just had to see you cut loose."

Goku held-back. He was testing Oob. Nothing more.
 

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Gohan was stuttering because he was so impressed. This doesn't imply someone is completely nonchalant based on what they're observing. It has more to do than him simply being an unknown.

@Evil Vegeta Goku only wanted to fight someone of Kid Boos battle power with 100% of his stamina and at full power, he surely couldn't stomp Boo/Oob.
 

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Goku wanted to see Oob's power for himself. That's it. Goku at full-power would definitely stomp Oob if he's only Kid Boo tier.
 

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Why wouldn't he be impressed? A random village kid is matching Goku. Being impressed does not mean you have to compare someone's power to your own.
 

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Tosh, are the kids stronger than Piccolo based on the artwork I posted awhile back?
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Goku wanted to see Oob's power for himself. That's it. Goku at full-power would definitely stomp Oob if he's only Kid Boo tier.
Goku wanted to fight Oob at 100% stamina before he recognized that he couldn't properly control his battle power. Once he realized he couldn't, he stopped the fight to train him until he could do so again. Because it's Boo reincarnated, there isn't a difference between the two and Goku still views Pure Boo as a challenge.

Again you're speculating.
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Tosh, are the kids stronger than Piccolo based on the artwork I posted awhile back?
Piccolo has been implied to be stronger from Krillen. Piccolo doesn't say anything that suggests he thinks they are superior to himself.

So no.
 

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Lol doesn't counter. Logic too strong I guess.
 

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