Vegeta SS2 [pre Majin] Vs Kid Gohan SS2

[Lightsworn]

Well, Vegeta doesn't seem to have trouble telling the difference between Goku and Gohan, so it's a bit weird if Piccolo's statement means that the two are really close. And it has been 7 years since Piccolo last saw Gohan.

Did Vegeta travel into the past and sense his Ki again

 

[Pyro]

Well, Vegeta doesn't seem to have trouble telling the difference between Goku and Gohan, so it's a bit weird if Piccolo's statement means that the two are really close. And it has been 7 years since Piccolo last saw Gohan.

Did Vegeta travel into the past and sense his Ki again

That was a stable burn.

 

[Kyo]

Nah, Trunks took his time machine with him when he left. Why do you ask?

edit: maybe the snark was uncalled for. Okay, why do you ask that?

 

[Pakl]

I think you take Piccolo too seriously

He is so weak he cant tell

Vegeta says Goku is stronger than Gohan so he is and not just a little

 

[Pyro]

I think you take Piccolo too seriously

He is so weak he cant tell

Vegeta says Goku is stronger than Gohan so he is and not just a little

I don't think you take Piccolo seriously enough.

He's perfectly capable of sensing.

Vegeta says Goku is stronger than Gohan so that's one statement.

 

[Kyo]

Eh. I remember ditching the "he's so weak so he can't tell" thing ages ago :sameold

 

[Pyro]

He can tell Evil Boo is stronger than Fat Boo.

 

[Pakl]

Piccolo has not sensed Gohan for a while so his statement is not valid... Vegeta says Goku is stronger

Goku is not >> Gohan or >= Gohan, he is > Gohan

 

[Ryuzaki]

Piccolo has not sensed Gohan for a while so his statement is not valid... Vegeta says Goku is stronger

Goku is not >> Gohan or >= Gohan, he is > Gohan

For the same reason, why Vegeta's statement would be valid ? As far as we know, he didn't took a Time Machine to sense Kid Gohan's ki again.

Vegeta stated that Goku was stronger, but as implied by Piccolo's statement, it's a small gap.

 

[Clearin]

Not that I'm the one arguing that Piccolo had trouble remembering anything (though I see it as a possibility, I myself take his statement at face value), Vegeta is far more obsessed with power than Piccolo. Of course Vegeta would remember Gohan's power until he'd surpassed it, while Piccolo likely only has vague memories of it.

 

[p123]

Kid Gohan being 80-90% of Goku should be fine.

 

[Pakl]

Vegeta was obssessed about strength and is more realible

Piccolo is a stupid ki sensor in the Boo saga

 

[p123]

Enraged Kid Gohan > Vegeta > Kid Gohan

Is what I'm going with

 

[Pakl]

There is no Enraged Gohan

Ssjin 2 is his enraged state

 

[Lightsworn]

Nah, Trunks took his time machine with him when he left. Why do you ask?

edit: maybe the snark was uncalled for. Okay, why do you ask that?

Vegeta also didn't see Goahn since 7 years

I mean, people use Bulma's quote that Trunks isn't much stronger than one armed Gohan, someone who can't even sense Ki. Why is it suddenly doubtful when Piccolo makes a a statement that doesn't even contradict Vegeta's?

 

[p123]

Then can someone explain how Super Saiyan Gohan's ki increased which is a stated fact by Cell?

 

[Pyro]

Vegeta was obssessed about strength and is more realible

Piccolo is a stupid ki sensor in the Boo saga

Get out.

 

[Clearin]

Piccolo is so stupid in the Boo saga that he thought base Gotenks was stronger than Super Boo

 

[SuperGogeta]

I See Gohan around Majin Vegeta in power, or a bit weaker, he wins

 

[LordBeefdip]

Piccolo has not sensed Gohan for a while so his statement is not valid... Vegeta says Goku is stronger

Goku is not >> Gohan or >= Gohan, he is > Gohan

So because you don't agree with a statement the author wrote one of his characters saying, that it means nothing?

Vegeta's statement only said that Goku was stronger than Kid SSj2 Gohan, but never specified. Piccolo's statement made it specific, that the amount wasn't huge. Almost anytime a character makes a statement like "Y might be even stronger than X", it tends to mean that while they are in the same general tier, that Y still retains a small edge.

Really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Personally, I put SSj2 Vegeta (Pre-Majin) as moderately weaker than Kid SSj2 Gohan. Up until Goku went full power he was never stated to have surpassed kid Gohan in SSj2. Meaning that the burst of power against Yakon that alarmed Vegeta was still at best slightly below kid Gohan.

Now that doesn't mean Vegeta was weaker than that SSj2 burst, but it does imply that it was very close to his full power, with Vegeta knowing that Goku would have much more to offer once he got serious.

Something like this:

SSj2 Goku/SSj2 Majin Vegeta: 110-115
SSj2 Kid Gohan: 100
SSj2 Goku (Burst): 90-97
SSj2 Vegeta: (Pre Majin): 90
SSj2 Teen Gohan: 80