Vegetto SSJB (anime)

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So how strong actually was Vegetto? Trunks claims his ki was much higher than Goku or Vegeta's individually, but SSJB Kaioken Goku seemed to overpower Zamasu prior to fusing. Is SSJB Vegetto even that far ahead of Kaioken Goku?
 

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I think logically he's supposed to be, but the anime staff seems afraid of just having some-one lose without a back-and-forth because they assume attention-span or something I guess, so they ended-up doing that.
 

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Mutado Zamasu is stronger than a Hypothetical Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 (Peak), since when Mutado Zamasu appears, they needed a power to overcome it and their only alternative was fusion.
 

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Is that only considering giant Zamasu? Because Goku clearly overpowered him when he broke his halo.
 

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I think he's ahead of 10x KK Blue Galu since as soon as Zamasu mutated into his purple hand form, Galu chose to fuse with the Potara rather than try upping the Kaioken. It seems like he got nerfed major in the animu to make his battle with Zamasu more even though, whereas his manga self was properly portrayed like Broly movie Gogeta.
 

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As SIAD pointed out, Zamasu powered up by mutating. I dare to say Zamasu actually surpassed Vegetto when he got bigger in the second half of the fight, but possibly lost speed in the process.

Infinite Zamasu ? Giant Zamasu > Vegetto Blue >= Mutated Zamasu >>> Base Vegetto >>> KKx10 SSJB Goku > Zamasu (Weakened) = SSJF Trunks.

I think the first power to surpass Vegetto and Zamasu was Jiren when he pushed the Genki-Dama. Beerus shat bricks to that power, and it’s flat out said somewhere that’s the biggest Ki up to that point I think.
 

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As SIAD pointed out, Zamasu powered up by mutating. I dare to say Zamasu actually surpassed Vegetto when he got bigger in the second half of the fight, but possibly lost speed in the process.

Infinite Zamasu ? Giant Zamasu > Vegetto Blue >= Mutated Zamasu >>> Base Vegetto >>> KKx10 SSJB Goku > Zamasu (Weakened) = SSJF Trunks.

I think the first power to surpass Vegetto and Zamasu was Jiren when he pushed the Genki-Dama. Beerus shat bricks to that power, and it’s flat out said somewhere that’s the biggest Ki up to that point I think.
Jiren is above infinite zamasu > Giant Zamasu > Mutated Zamasu

Base Vegito didn't fight mutated zamasu in the anime

Beerus was hoping that power would be enough to deal with jiren he never verbally said it could hurt him

and be in mind jiren wasn't using even 1% of his power against the genki dama not until he ended the 1st fight with omen sign 1 goku
 

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You know it might be better to actually give reasons then to just reply to every post you don’t agree with and deny them like they’re facts. Might be. :shc:shc:shc
you know your right

Infinite zamasu > giant zamasu > mutated zamasu > merged zamasu because once his physical form was destroyed he spread his eternal presence accross the universe merging with it granting him control over everything hell it took zen-oh to erase him out of existence just to stop him thats how powerful he was and he was already affecting other timelines one of those in which he survived zen-oh erasure thats how he showed up again in dragon ball heroes uncanon by the way
 

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As SIAD pointed out, Zamasu powered up by mutating. I dare to say Zamasu actually surpassed Vegetto when he got bigger in the second half of the fight, but possibly lost speed in the process.

Infinite Zamasu ? Giant Zamasu > Vegetto Blue >= Mutated Zamasu >>> Base Vegetto >>> KKx10 SSJB Goku > Zamasu (Weakened) = SSJF Trunks.

I think the first power to surpass Vegetto and Zamasu was Jiren when he pushed the Genki-Dama. Beerus shat bricks to that power, and it’s flat out said somewhere that’s the biggest Ki up to that point I think.
Yeah I think so.

Episode 66
Time: 16:53
Context: After Zamasu's body grows exponentially
Vegetto: "What's the matter?! Can't that bulky body you've given over to anger keep up with my speed?!"

Vegetto stressing his own speed makes me think that Zamasu had the edge in power.
 

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Stronger than Merged Zamasu but not much. Probably like KK3 Goku and Vegeta from Saiyan arc.
 
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