Were Goku And Gohan Using SSjin2 Against Broly?

[Let's Go Fearless!]

During the KHH struggle against Broly. We're they using SS2 against him?

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't think either of them was.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Gohan definitely did in the end. I'm not sure whether he did before, though but since this was to mirror the Gohan vs Cell KHH struggle I'd think he was. I don't know. Goku probably wasn't.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Probably at the end based on their hairstyles in the last shot, though likely not beforehand.

 

[Pakl]

Goku never went SSjin 2 because his SSjin 2 didn't exist

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku never went SSjin 2 because his SSjin 2 didn't exist

What about Gohan at the end?

 

[Pyro]

Both of them did.

 

[Void]

Gohan did at the very least.

 

[Pakl]

Goku never went SSjin 2 because his SSjin 2 didn't exist

What about Gohan at the end?

Since Goku told them to use all of their powers, Gohan did

 

[Six Trails]

Gohan may have went SS2, but only at the end. When he first transforms and charges up the Kamehameha he's only a SS1.

Goku used the same form that he did against Gohan in the RoSaT:

Spoiler

 

[Pakl]

Why are people so ignorant?? For starters, Gokus appearance in the movie was not even relevant.. Goku tells his sons they can win if they use every bit of their powers meaning, Goku was not even necessary. Plus the fact SSjin 2 Goku didn't exist for god sake in the series.. His hair got pushed back by the attack. There was no transformation shown, not backgroud scream (when they go SSjin 2 there is a background scream) so just stop this shit

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Plus the fact SSjin 2 Goku didn't exist for god sake in the series.

Irrelevant when not only is this entirely from a meta perspective rather than an in-universe argument, but it was made pretty obvious Vegeta had achieved the form by that point with how he questioned if Gohan was still stronger. I highly doubt Toei would consider Goku to lack the form if Vegeta already attained it, given the status-quo.

 

[Pakl]

Plus the fact SSjin 2 Goku didn't exist for god sake in the series.

Irrelevant when not only is this entirely from a meta perspective rather than an in-universe argument, but it was made pretty obvious Vegeta had achieved the form by that point with how he questioned if Gohan was still stronger. I highly doubt Toei would consider Goku to lack the form if Vegeta already attained it, given the status-quo.

If it was so obvious, why was Goku surprised Majin Vegeta went SSjin 2 if not too long before, Vegeta said he and Goku are probably stronger than Gohan?

The thing is that there is no in universe logic for movies because they are alternative universes.. You do realize that Vegeta never appeared in the movie because his new power was not known at that time??

 

[Wogman]

Yes both went SSJ2 in the end, Gohan and Goku changed where Goten didn't

Why are people so ignorant?? For starters, Gokus appearance in the movie was not even relevant.. Goku tells his sons they can win if they use every bit of their powers meaning, Goku was not even necessary. Plus the fact SSjin 2 Goku didn't exist for god sake in the series.. His hair got pushed back by the attack. There was no transformation shown, not backgroud scream (when they go SSjin 2 there is a background scream) so just stop this shit

Actually Goku appearance in the movie was relevant considering with his power + encouragement he ended up doing something, guides even said Goku encouragement made their sons power up. Goku wasn't necessary lol yet even with his help they couldn't do anything until Broly was distracted. Ah yeah it actually did exist, problem is, it didn't existed in the anime, which is pointless since the manga was already showing Goku himself and the anime goes by the manga unless fillers are involved. His hair got pushed back yet Goten with the same hair style and situation didn't -.- bullshit excuses.

Let me makes this clear for you special one, you got nothing, your theories are bullshit, you don't even have a single interview saying anything that justifies your bullshit opinions, you lost, you lost the moment when the authors and producers said Broly was the strongest not once, by 3 times. So take your ball and go home

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If it was so obvious, why was Goku surprised Majin Vegeta went SSjin 2 if not too long before, Vegeta said he and Goku are probably stronger than Gohan?

Obvious from the audience's perspective, not the characters'.

The thing is that there is no in universe logic for movies because they are alternative universes..

The movies still have to contain some semblance of their own in-universe logic when considering most of the movies' timelines still aren't completely alien to the main canon.

You do realize that Vegeta never appeared in the movie because his new power was not known at that time??

Gohan's power wasn't known to Toei at the time of Movie 8, so that's irrelevant.

 

[Pakl]

If it was so obvious, why was Goku surprised Majin Vegeta went SSjin 2 if not too long before, Vegeta said he and Goku are probably stronger than Gohan?

Obvious from the audience's perspective, not the characters'.

The thing is that there is no in universe logic for movies because they are alternative universes..

The movies still have to contain some semblance of their own in-universe logic when considering most of the movies' timelines still aren't completely alien to the main canon.

You do realize that Vegeta never appeared in the movie because his new power was not known at that time??

Gohan's power wasn't known to Toei at the time of Movie 8, so that's irrelevant.

How do you know its obvious from the audiences prespective? If its not shown on the series then its not known regardless of whatever theories anyone can come with. By that logic, anything can be shown because it makes sense..

Indeed the movies still have contact with the canon because they are based on it. Still doesnt change the fact they are alternative universe. For example Gotenks only appears as SSjin in movie 12 because his SSjin 3 was not revealed at that point

Its irrelevant if TOEI knew about Gohans power (I believe they know what Toeiyamas intentions were anyway) but whats relevant is what the audience knows. Thats also why M8 Gohan is not so strong as he was ripped of his end of his Rosat training part. Besides thats not the same thing. Gohan was a SSjin long before movie 8.

Vegeta doesnt appear in movie 10 because he had nonpart at the begining of Boo arc and was not known to have SSjin 2.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

How do you know its obvious from the audiences prespective? If its not shown on the series then its not known regardless of whatever theories anyone can come with. By that logic, anything can be shown because it makes sense..

Unless the audience is meant to think Vegeta was either and idiot, had become strong enough in SSJ to be above SS2 Gohan or believed Gohan couldn't access SS2, him gaining SS2 was common sense. Something doesn't need to be explicitly shown or stated if it's heavily implied. There's such a thing as subtlety, after all.

Indeed the movies still have contact with the canon because they are based on it. Still doesnt change the fact they are alternative universe. For example Gotenks only appears as SSjin in movie 12 because his SSjin 3 was not revealed at that point.

And because he didn't really need to.

Vegeta doesnt appear in movie 10 because he had nonpart at the begining of Boo arc and was not known to have SSjin 2.

The former is correct. The latter isn't a valid reason as they would've just done what they did with Gohan if ignorance of his power was a major factor, being not having him as a SS2.