brodgan

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So Cooler and Goku train with Grandpa Gohan, Master Roshi, Yajirobi etc. all the way up to the Cell Saga (Age 767) Then Cooler is, due to seeing his wife (Frost Demon Species) killed by Cell and brought back, manipulated by Babidi to become a Majin and kill Vegeta to save Babidi, Cooler with Majin Spopovich and Pui Pui's help kill Tien,SS2 Gohan and Tien's whole Camp (Including kid trainees) (Age 770). (x2) Majin Cooler 100% then knocks his pregnant wife out near a volcano as Goku goes Super Saiyan 2 (x500). Cooler wins most of the 30-min fight when Goku Instant Transmissions away and makes an Energy Force Field and a Destructo Disc, Cooler cracks the shield but is immediately cut in two by Goku as he falls in lava and burns after pulling himself up onto a ledge. Goku looks off as Cooler burns and IT's away. After Babidi stalemated Master Roshi he comes with 2 Majin Soldiers and saves Cooler from certain death. Goku finds Cooler's wife and is forced to deliver the kid but fails as she dies in childbirth along with the kid. Cooler becomes Majin Meta (Majin Meta Cooler Final Form) and terrorizes the Universe. (Age 789) Majin Meta and (x4000) SS3 Goku meet again after 2 Decades and battle for 10 odd minutes as Majin Meta breaks Goku's Force Shield, grabs Goku holding the Destructo Disc and Energy Stabs him in the heart. Goten goes SS2 and Meta IT's away, (Age 792) SS2 Goten is beaten by Majin Meta but Goten goes SS3 and defeats Majin Meta. Babidi looks to turn Goten Majin but Goten resists, Meta looks at Goten and then at his disfigured body and then at Babidi's scowl. Cooler then picks up Babidi and goes to snap his neck but Babidi mind controls Cooler and almost fells Cooler, but Cooler tells Goten to run and as Goten runs Cooler explodes in a Great Blinding Light destroying Babidi and the Big Gete Star
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SS3 Goten 530 Billion Power Level Age 792
Majin Meta Cooler Final Form 430 Billion Power Level Age 770-792
SS3 Goku 320 Billion Power Level Age 773-789
SS2 Goten 63.6 Billion Power Level Age 789
Majin Cooler 100% 50 Billion Power Level Age 770
SS2 Goku 45 Billion Power Level Age 770
SS2 Majin Vegeta 42 Billion Power Level Age 770
SS2 Gohan 41 Billion Power Level Age 770
Majin Dabura 30 Billion Power Level Age 770-792
Cooler 100% 12 Billion Power Level Age 767
Perfect Cell 7.5 Billion Power Level Age 767
Cooler 6 Billion Power Level Age 767
SS1 Goku 5 Billion Power Level Age 767
 

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Isn't Cooler naturally way stronger than Goku? Roshi would have a hard time coaching him and unless someone teaches him how to lower his ki he'd have a hard time training with Goku. When Raditzbcomes down Cooper kills him easily and Goku never goes to King Kai's. Goku never gets his character growth from having Bora, Krillin, Roshi and Chazou killed (Yamcha too must've been killed, don't remember his death though sorry. wolf fang fast is still the best though)/nearly being killed by Tao and King Piccolo and having to come back. You could say he never really had character growth, but maybe he did...maybe when he comes back from failure or has to dig deep in less serious circumstances it's easier because he had practice in those super serious situations where he didn't have to try to motivate himself. Maybe Goku doesn't need it though (Gohan I think does).
Goku never goes to Namek because Cooler can defeat Nappa and Vegeta easily.

Goku basically becomes Yamcha, but without women chasing him. Basically a taller Krillin with hair. He can still get his competition fix by fighting weak henchmen. Would be interesting to see if he's less willing to let villains live when he's not a frontrunner any more.
 

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i would say no because by the time of the Android Saga in the movies Goku's base Power Level was 5.2 million and Cooler's was 2.9 million
 

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But Freeza got to a high power level without even doing much training, Cooler was probably the same. Goku got to his high power level from a low starting point and then being challenged by stronger opponents, who he had to fight because nobody else was there to do it, so he ended up training and seeking out help to get stronger (Korin, Kami, King Kai). If Cooler is around and starts with a way higher PL, what would force Goku to grow his power so much? He wouldn't even ever go to Namek, because Piccolo would never have been killed by Nappa.
 

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But Freeza got to a high power level without even doing much training, Cooler was probably the same. Goku got to his high power level from a low starting point and then being challenged by stronger opponents, who he had to fight because nobody else was there to do it, so he ended up training and seeking out help to get stronger (Korin, Kami, King Kai). If Cooler is around and starts with a way higher PL, what would force Goku to grow his power so much? He wouldn't even ever go to Namek, because Piccolo would never have been killed by Nappa.
makes no sense because 1. Goku would've leveled up due Cooler's power 2. Cooler was 2.9 million PL 3. Piccolo would've killed by Nappa due to Cooler being somewhere else training
 

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Just imagine Cooler as an infant staring at Goku’s space pod while he leaves Planet Vegeta. LOL.
 

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