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Fantastische Hure

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A post I just read made me think of this.

What if after the Freeza saga, Vegeta were to return as an SSJ and get his revenge like he promised at the end of the battle on earth? Obviously there might be no Cell saga then but then again you can't really revolve an entire saga around that.
 

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It would probably take him a while to do so, considering it took him 3 years in the main timeline with the additional motivation of Trunks being a Super Saiyan too humiliating him. For the sake of the scenario, we'll say he achieves it in one year. Whether he arrives before or after Freeza is irrelevant as either Goku would immediately use Shunkan Ido to get to Earth and defeat him or Vegeta would fight Freeza and Cold, likely only being able to hold out until Goku arrived. In either case, Vegeta would calm down and see he still has to train. With his far more aggressive attitude and having not stayed at Capsule Corp. a year as in the manga, it's unlikely Bulma would've become attracted to him and Trunks isn't born.
This changes the future timeline somewhat as it's more likely that being Earth's last hope, Gohan wouldn't rush into battle against #17 and #18 and would instead wait for Bulma to build the Time Machine. This would either result in a scenario where he simply takes Trunks' role, or one I've went into in other What-Ifs in which he stays with his family for training that allows them to defeat #19 and #20, Gohan destroys the lab and Cell is eventually killed due to not being able to become perfect.
In the latter case, Dabura would be a major threat and even assuming Gohan and Goten beat him after training on the Kaioshinkai a long time, Freeza would still kill everyone after his revival due to the lack of necessary people for the God ritual (unless someone wishes for Tarble to be teleported to Earth in which case Super goes near enough the same until the Moro Arc).
In the scenario closer to the main timeline, the lack of Trunks for fusion would cause Goku to be fully intent on destroying Boo and successful in this. As for how this affects Super, Goku and Vegeta being dead would likely cause Beerus to stay asleep as in Future Trunks' timeline. How things go after this depends on Sorbet's intel, either:

1. Sorbet still believes Goku is on Earth. Freeza trains for 4 months and kills everyone on Earth after making his GAINZ, unless.
2. Sorbet is aware Goku and Vegeta are dead, causing Freeza to be overconfident in travelling to Earth and being easily dispatched. Most of Super doesn't happen until Moro breaks out of prison and causes havoc, likely causing Beerus to be woken up to deal with him before going back to sleep. That said, most of Super's events in general (thankfully) don't happen.
 

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Is there any confirmation on how long it actually took for Vegeta to achieve SSJ during the 3 year time gap? There's not even a flashback in the manga, he just announces that he trained his ass off one day and achieved it out of rage. For all we know it could've been a year into the training, or two or even a month before he fought #19.
 

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So what'd happen in the present time-line? Gohan'd go back to the future time-line right?!

Also what happened to Vegeta in your post l0l? You said he ended-up dead but I don't know how. Did Goku defeat him or did Vegeta come to earth for the Z-Team and instead saw the androids?
 

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Kenshi said:
Is there any confirmation on how long it actually took for Vegeta to achieve SSJ during the 3 year time gap? There's not even a flashback in the manga, he just announces that he trained his ass off one day and achieved it out of rage. For all we know it could've been a year into the training, or two or even a month before he fought #19.
Considering it's never suggested he achieved Super Saiyan in the future timeline (even backed up by the bonus chapter of Super) despite him likely having the same motivation to surpass Goku, I'd say the likelihood of him gaining SSJ close to the end of the 3 year gap is pretty high even with the additional factor of Trunks being a Super Saiyan driving him.

Fantastische Hure said:
So what'd happen in the present time-line? Gohan'd go back to the future time-line right?!
Yes. He'd either stay a while and make the round trip 3 years later, or do what Trunks did.

Also what happened to Vegeta in your post l0l? You said he ended-up dead but I don't know how. Did Goku defeat him or did Vegeta come to earth for the Z-Team and instead saw the androids?
It can go a number of ways. Either Goku sees no other option but to kill Vegeta, or he gets killed by #17 and #18 later on. Either way, he's not surviving in the 1st timeline.
 

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