What Was Frieza's Initial Power Level When First Introduced?

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If Cui, Vegeta, Dodoria, and Zarbon were all around 20-24k when the story shifts over the Planet Namek, what was Frieza's initial power level at the point in time?

Did he have this same power level when he destroyed Planet Vegeta?
What is the minimum power level to destroy a planet?
 

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Given he tanks nail and piccolo considers it massive compared to the others before he even powers up, he's flying around at above 100k at least.
 

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He's probably around 475k in regards to what his lowest suppression can be. He powers up right before facing off Vegeta. His initial power is still stronger than Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillen.
 

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So, I believe I just received my answer. When Frieza checked Nail's Power level, the scouter read 42,000. Then Frieza stated:

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So, now I have to ask: how the hell was Frieza so powerful already?
 

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"My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."

Then vs Vegeta, Gohan, and Kuririn he powers up, and they are all shocked and Piccolo comments on a massive power increasing even more from however far away he was.
 

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So Nappa can control his power level too?

Vegeta is shocked that Freeza can control his power level later.
Fooling a ki senser and fooling a scouter are two different things. It feels like Nappa is powering up, but Nappa can't fool a scouter.

Freeza feels like he's powering up, his ki is going up in regards to what a ki senser can feel.

Vegeta's comment makes no sense since he has no idea if a scouter would be able to pick up Freeza's power at the time.
 

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So, I believe I just received my answer. When Frieza checked Nail's Power level, the scouter read 42,000. Then Frieza stated:

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So, now I have to ask: how the hell was Frieza so powerful already?
Freeza was born in his 4th and Final Form, so his natural power level is 120,000,000 or so. The other forms were developed to contain and suppress his full power, presumably because he wasn't able to control it. He's kind of the opposite of most characters in that regard. The only true power up he has is his buff form.
 

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150k sounds good. Goku knew he was a threat but only calles him a large Ki when he headed for the Grand Elder's home, rather than acting like he needed to bust out high levels of Kaioken to match his initial level.
 

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So Nappa can control his power level too?

Vegeta is shocked that Freeza can control his power level later.

Welcome to debating dragonball, which is kind of why I don't do it much anymore. There are so many points the farther in you get where statements contradict. I guess you could chalk this up to Vegeta not being skilled in reading chi yet, but he already seemed pretty proficient.

Chapter: 294 (DBZ 100), P13.3-4
Context: as Freeza powers up
Gohan: “Th…thi…this can’t be…”
Kuririn: “To-to think that he was this incredible…”

Chapter: 294 (DBZ 100), P14.1
Context: as Freeza powers up
Piccolo: “That large ki has become even more absurdly large! Is this ‘Freeza’ finally starting to move?!”

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Chapter: 298 (DBZ 104), P1.3
Context: Freeza’s still powering up after Gohan’s attack
Gohan: “It…it can’t be…His ki power is getting even stronger…!”
Vegeta: “Ho…how can this be?...To think that he could control his battle power…!”
Freeza: “I’ll return the pain I received many times over…”
 

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Freeza was born in his 4th and Final Form, so his natural power level is 120,000,000 or so. The other forms were developed to contain and suppress his full power, presumably because he wasn't able to control it. He's kind of the opposite of most characters in that regard. The only true power up he has is his buff form.
Is there any information as to how lower/weaker transformations came to be? I find this very curious that Frieza transforms the complete opposite way than everyone else, to become weaker, rather than stronger.
 

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Is there any information as to how lower/weaker transformations came to be? I find this very curious that Frieza transforms the complete opposite way than everyone else, to become weaker, rather than stronger.
Freeza clearly was born in his 4th form since it is the form he naturally reverts to from his Golden form and he called it his true form, and he said in his first form that his weakest form is a form used to limit his power since he has so much of it that he cannot control it. My guess is that he made h is 3rd form as freaky and intimidating as possible and regretted it since the spikes on his back got in the way of sleep and practical life purposes, and then made his 2nd form in his father's likeness only to discard that idea because it was too large for practicality and he deep down didn't even like his dad anyway (as seen in RoF), so he then created his diminutive 1st (technically 4th) form to stay at a level where he could control his power efficiently. It seems like he likes his 1st and true forms most of all since he didn't like the idea of staying in 2nd form to keep himself tall and he used his 1st form even in RoF after mastering his 4th form, indicating it offers a degree of comfort, and perhaps easier recovery from fatigue since it exerts the least strength.
 
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