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I know. You are good. Just giving credit where credit is due. 
Where do you place Movie villains?
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Mike said:
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i didnt want to be rude
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l0l yeMike said:
that's kewl
i jst wanted to do the batista emoticon
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Garlic Jr: Slightly stronger than BOZ Goku/Piccolo, since they easily beat him by teaming up and he only
survived because of immortality.
Wheelo: I give this Goku a zenkai from his fight with Vegeta (10k), so Wheelo is between Goku's 2x KK and 3x
KK (about 25k). His blast is about 40k.
Tullece: This is tricky. I don't think he has to be stronger than Ape Gohan, since all he did was deflecting a
blast and the ape wasn't focused on him. Also, the ''30k and skyrocketing'' statement about Goku is vague.
Considering Goku could use 10x KK, i'll place him at his Ginyu Saga self (90k) and Tullece a little lower (84k),
giving him 15x a boost from the fruit, so that he overpowers Goku's 10x KK. Whether the second fruit gave
him the same boost is up to anyone.
Slug: I have this Goku slightly stronger than his M3 self (100k), and give SSJ a boost of 40x. So, Old Slug is
2m, Young Slug is 3m (fodder to SSJ Goku's 4m) and Giant Slug is 5m (one shotted by Goku's 100x KK).
For reference, i have 2nd Form Freeza equal to Old Slug and 3rd Form Freeza equal to Young Slug. SSJ
Goku is equal to Namek Vegeta (post last zenkai) and Giant Slug equal to the Freeza who beat Vegeta.
Cooler: I have M5 Goku above his Yardrat self and give him a zenkai after the senzu. 4th Form Cooler is
between 50%-100% Freeza and Goku was invisibly using 10x KK. Whether he could buff his 4th form is
up to anyone. I think it is possible, he just opted not to, because he knew of the strain and had a more
effective power up. 5th Form Cooler can be placed at SSJ Yardrat Goku level or even a little above.
Meta Cooler: I have the SSJs here a bit above Kamiccolo. Initial Meta Cooler is Ginger Cell level or a little
above. Post his ''zenkai'', he's still fodder to Sixteen/Humans Cell, but he wouldn't go down as easily as
Seventeen/Kamiccolo.
Thirteen: I have M7 SSJs equal to their Androids Saga selves. Thirteen is at Androids Saga Goku tier and,
post transforming, somewhere around Sixteen/Humans Cell.
Broly: Goku is his post spirit room self. Broly took a kamehameha at point blank range. I have him at least
at Super Perfect Cell/SSJ2 Kid Gohan level.
Bojack: Initially, a little stronger than SSJ Kid Gohan. Post transforming, somewhat lower than Full Power
Perfect Cell, since he went down faster and SSJ2 Gohan shrugged off a blast of his.
Broly (return): I have Gohan at his post Z sword self, which is somewhat above adult SSJ2s. This Broly is
Good Buu level, or even Fat Buu, depending how you view Buu's splitting and SSJ3 multiplier.
Bio Broly: About Cell Games SSJ Goku.
Janemba: Fat is equal to Fat Buu. Super is equal to Super Buu.
Hirudegarn: Depends on how you view Buu Saga in general. If you follow the ''Goku is maximum'' theory,
no problem. If you want to keep Goku fodder to Buu Saga Gohan/Gotenks, you can assume M13 Gohan has
lost his mystic power up and the kids produced a poorly executed fusion, resulting in a weak Gotenks.
survived because of immortality.
Wheelo: I give this Goku a zenkai from his fight with Vegeta (10k), so Wheelo is between Goku's 2x KK and 3x
KK (about 25k). His blast is about 40k.
Tullece: This is tricky. I don't think he has to be stronger than Ape Gohan, since all he did was deflecting a
blast and the ape wasn't focused on him. Also, the ''30k and skyrocketing'' statement about Goku is vague.
Considering Goku could use 10x KK, i'll place him at his Ginyu Saga self (90k) and Tullece a little lower (84k),
giving him 15x a boost from the fruit, so that he overpowers Goku's 10x KK. Whether the second fruit gave
him the same boost is up to anyone.
Slug: I have this Goku slightly stronger than his M3 self (100k), and give SSJ a boost of 40x. So, Old Slug is
2m, Young Slug is 3m (fodder to SSJ Goku's 4m) and Giant Slug is 5m (one shotted by Goku's 100x KK).
For reference, i have 2nd Form Freeza equal to Old Slug and 3rd Form Freeza equal to Young Slug. SSJ
Goku is equal to Namek Vegeta (post last zenkai) and Giant Slug equal to the Freeza who beat Vegeta.
Cooler: I have M5 Goku above his Yardrat self and give him a zenkai after the senzu. 4th Form Cooler is
between 50%-100% Freeza and Goku was invisibly using 10x KK. Whether he could buff his 4th form is
up to anyone. I think it is possible, he just opted not to, because he knew of the strain and had a more
effective power up. 5th Form Cooler can be placed at SSJ Yardrat Goku level or even a little above.
Meta Cooler: I have the SSJs here a bit above Kamiccolo. Initial Meta Cooler is Ginger Cell level or a little
above. Post his ''zenkai'', he's still fodder to Sixteen/Humans Cell, but he wouldn't go down as easily as
Seventeen/Kamiccolo.
Thirteen: I have M7 SSJs equal to their Androids Saga selves. Thirteen is at Androids Saga Goku tier and,
post transforming, somewhere around Sixteen/Humans Cell.
Broly: Goku is his post spirit room self. Broly took a kamehameha at point blank range. I have him at least
at Super Perfect Cell/SSJ2 Kid Gohan level.
Bojack: Initially, a little stronger than SSJ Kid Gohan. Post transforming, somewhat lower than Full Power
Perfect Cell, since he went down faster and SSJ2 Gohan shrugged off a blast of his.
Broly (return): I have Gohan at his post Z sword self, which is somewhat above adult SSJ2s. This Broly is
Good Buu level, or even Fat Buu, depending how you view Buu's splitting and SSJ3 multiplier.
Bio Broly: About Cell Games SSJ Goku.
Janemba: Fat is equal to Fat Buu. Super is equal to Super Buu.
Hirudegarn: Depends on how you view Buu Saga in general. If you follow the ''Goku is maximum'' theory,
no problem. If you want to keep Goku fodder to Buu Saga Gohan/Gotenks, you can assume M13 Gohan has
lost his mystic power up and the kids produced a poorly executed fusion, resulting in a weak Gotenks.
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Due to the remaining idiotic comments, I would prefer to be silent but I have to step in 
Garlic Jr: Weaker than Raditz as he was overpowered by Goku and Piccolo he is 600 at most but can be close to 1,000 using the Dead Zone
Doctor Uiru: people seem to forget Kaioken x3 Goku broke his arm and overpowered him... He also needed Kaioken x4 to beat Vegeta and we know Vegeta got stomped by Kaioken x3 Goku
The difference is that Uiru overpowered Gokus KHH where Vegeta just matched it making Uiru closer to Kaioken x 3 Goku and at 21k which is Dodoriad BP IMO
His power was said to rise when he reached space but I dont think he reached 30k as he admitted to be weaker thsn Kaioken x4 Goku so 28k at most
Tullece: This link shows my analysis about Tullece addressing this all Tullece Pre Fruit being Ginyu level nonsense...
http://dbzeta.net/topic/11193452/1/
He is at 31,500 pre fruit and 450k post... I think he didnt get stronger from the second fruit because it was in the end and had no meaning and because Goku sucked the power from the tree... Tullece has no visible muscles boost and he looks on the tree like something is weird about it... even if he gained power its not much so 630k imo
Slug: M4 Goku is 90k as he is his Ginyu Arc self.. Old Slug is in par with Ginyu as he was the leader of the henchmen who mimick the rest of the Ginyu force.... Prime Slug is 300k imo.... all he dod was beating 90k Goku.... Gokus statement about Slug should not necessarily mean power as he says his ki is distinctly differenet... can talk about his evil ki or his unkown race
Giant Slug > 3rd form Freeza as it was the last form shown in the Anime... 2,500,000 is fine
Coola: 170,000,000 at his 5th form
Meta Coola: rivals Androids Saga SSjin Goku and in par with 18 after repair
Super 13: I have M7 Z senshi somewhat stronger than in the Androids Saga... M7 Goku > M7 Vegeta... Android 13 is 1st form Cells level in Ginger makes sense as Piccolo talking to him resembles his dialouge with Cell and Super 13 in par with Android 16 and Cell after eating humans... I know the Daizenshuu says 16 is the second strongest but I think it talks about the series and in universe logic
M8 Broli: in par with Cell Games Goku and Gohan... His RSSjin is in par with SSjinG 3 Trunks based on his tank og SSjinG 2 Vegeta and his SSjin is in par with 50% MSSjin Goku based on his power up and the shock.... LSSjin is in par with Cell Games Goku and Gohan... Yes, everyone knows that I think that anyone who claims M8 Broli can touch Cell is an idiot
Bojack: his base form easily beat Vegeta and he should be in par with Perfect Cell vs Goku and Gohan while his super form is close to Cell full power and no he is not a little bit stronger than SSjin Gohan you fools
M10 Broli: rivals SSjin 2 Goku
Bio Broli: not too far from Warmed Up Perfect Cell
Janemba: M12 Goku gap over M12 Vegeta who is his canon self should be the same as canon Goku and Vegeta pre majin.... M12 Goku is 1.3x stronger than Boo Arc Goku and Fat Janemba between Fat Boo and Canon SSjin 3 Goku
Super Janemba is below Evil Boos full power
Hildegarn: his first form is between Gotenks-Boo and Gohan-Boo and his last form not much stronger than Gohan-Boo
Garlic Jr: Weaker than Raditz as he was overpowered by Goku and Piccolo he is 600 at most but can be close to 1,000 using the Dead Zone
Doctor Uiru: people seem to forget Kaioken x3 Goku broke his arm and overpowered him... He also needed Kaioken x4 to beat Vegeta and we know Vegeta got stomped by Kaioken x3 Goku
The difference is that Uiru overpowered Gokus KHH where Vegeta just matched it making Uiru closer to Kaioken x 3 Goku and at 21k which is Dodoriad BP IMO
His power was said to rise when he reached space but I dont think he reached 30k as he admitted to be weaker thsn Kaioken x4 Goku so 28k at most
Tullece: This link shows my analysis about Tullece addressing this all Tullece Pre Fruit being Ginyu level nonsense...
http://dbzeta.net/topic/11193452/1/
He is at 31,500 pre fruit and 450k post... I think he didnt get stronger from the second fruit because it was in the end and had no meaning and because Goku sucked the power from the tree... Tullece has no visible muscles boost and he looks on the tree like something is weird about it... even if he gained power its not much so 630k imo
Slug: M4 Goku is 90k as he is his Ginyu Arc self.. Old Slug is in par with Ginyu as he was the leader of the henchmen who mimick the rest of the Ginyu force.... Prime Slug is 300k imo.... all he dod was beating 90k Goku.... Gokus statement about Slug should not necessarily mean power as he says his ki is distinctly differenet... can talk about his evil ki or his unkown race
Giant Slug > 3rd form Freeza as it was the last form shown in the Anime... 2,500,000 is fine
Coola: 170,000,000 at his 5th form
Meta Coola: rivals Androids Saga SSjin Goku and in par with 18 after repair
Super 13: I have M7 Z senshi somewhat stronger than in the Androids Saga... M7 Goku > M7 Vegeta... Android 13 is 1st form Cells level in Ginger makes sense as Piccolo talking to him resembles his dialouge with Cell and Super 13 in par with Android 16 and Cell after eating humans... I know the Daizenshuu says 16 is the second strongest but I think it talks about the series and in universe logic
M8 Broli: in par with Cell Games Goku and Gohan... His RSSjin is in par with SSjinG 3 Trunks based on his tank og SSjinG 2 Vegeta and his SSjin is in par with 50% MSSjin Goku based on his power up and the shock.... LSSjin is in par with Cell Games Goku and Gohan... Yes, everyone knows that I think that anyone who claims M8 Broli can touch Cell is an idiot
Bojack: his base form easily beat Vegeta and he should be in par with Perfect Cell vs Goku and Gohan while his super form is close to Cell full power and no he is not a little bit stronger than SSjin Gohan you fools
M10 Broli: rivals SSjin 2 Goku
Bio Broli: not too far from Warmed Up Perfect Cell
Janemba: M12 Goku gap over M12 Vegeta who is his canon self should be the same as canon Goku and Vegeta pre majin.... M12 Goku is 1.3x stronger than Boo Arc Goku and Fat Janemba between Fat Boo and Canon SSjin 3 Goku
Super Janemba is below Evil Boos full power
Hildegarn: his first form is between Gotenks-Boo and Gohan-Boo and his last form not much stronger than Gohan-Boo
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pakl, i thought u were 1 of the ppl that believes movie 10 broly is only on-par with spc???
also where do u think pre-transformation janemba is???
EDIT: i actually see u did write janemba down
ok wot abt movie 7 androids #15 & #14???
also where do u think pre-transformation janemba is???
EDIT: i actually see u did write janemba down
ok wot abt movie 7 androids #15 & #14???
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between???Guliver said:
do u mean #14 is stronger than trunks???
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oh ye u did say that
sry
didn't trunks 1-shot #14, when he went super-saiyan???
sry
didn't trunks 1-shot #14, when he went super-saiyan???
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bcoz of their fight in base???Guliver said:
they were even fine when super#13 formed
vegeta smiled
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i guess
thx for answering
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