Animelover5487 said:
While I support the notion of SSJ2 Kid Gohan being more than two times his SSJ power due to the heavy implications of him getting a rage boost, there is no reason to make it that much over two times.
This here is a reason. There's no reason for Gohan not to be that powerful if it's not contradicted in the slightest at all. Funnily speaking, the Buu Saga quite heavily supports this in a very crazy manner. To have it far above Ssj2 multiplier is really fine if both of us agree that Rage Boost is above 2x Ssj
originally the difference between Ssj2 multiplier and Gohan's rage boost is unquantifiable so it could be far above Ssj2 multiplier or not that much far above it. The Buu Saga implies it's far above Ssj2 Multiplier, so that's a really enough reason.
I haven't seen any source that says Shin is equal to Cell Games SSJ Goku.
El Manga Legendario says that Kaioshin can be
deduced to be equal to Cell Games Ssj Goku. Since the meaning of deduction is used here, it makes it plausible that Kaioshin is on that level. Which means Kaioshin is equal, if not above or
partially below Ssj Goku CG
This same guide is created by his personal staff which Akira says they know more about DBZ than him. This guide also has information about some personal belongings related to Akira Toriyama himself.
Gohan knows Vegeta can transform so he isn't referring to base.
It is referring to base if you look at the context though. Gohan said that Vegeta is stronger than before
while his base form was fighting Pui Pui so there's no reference to Grade 2 at all. So Gohan is referring strictly to his base form being above anything from before. Goku in base form being above pikkon is actually supported in the Manga, Kai and Chozenshu guide (the same guide which mentions multiple information about the Manga, Kai and Battle of Gods movie)
Going by the anime and Kai maybe. In the manga Gohan was explicitly a SSJ.
Even in the manga, Gohan was a Ssj2. The only thing that says otherwise is art. However that goes against all the evidence which supports the narrative that Gohan was a Ssj2. Dabura is equal to Cell if not superior, yet somehow Gohan gives Dabura trouble as a Super Saiyan? That's not logical to me...
He couldn't have got that much stronger since he is still weaker than seven years ago.
His Ssj2 Form is, as implied by Daizenshuu 2