Wouldn’t Yu-Gi-Oh! be funner with-out drawing cards?

[Fantastische Hure]

It all comes-down to skill, especially if both players have access to entire catalogue of cards or maybe set 40 cards that both players have access to each. Now it’s purely skill.

 

[Warmmedown]

please never post the word "funner" again

Maybe. It could be interesting.

The thing about drawing cards is it adds an extra element of surprise. And of risk management. Because for both aspects, you now not only can be surprised by the opponent's cards, but also by your own being what you didn't expect.

Also bigger issue with the physical cards is that if you only have one deck, without drawing cards there is now not as much variance in outcome of the games, as you'll only try to play your cards in so many ways if you have access to them all in one go. Whereas if you have to draw cards, there are a bunch of ideal strategies you'd try, plus the non-ideal ones presented to each player by the limitations of drawing cards.

 

[Warmmedown]

disclaimer: basically never played yugioh, except trying to play that online game with an offline friend circa 2011, except he didn't even seem to fully know the rules and I didn't know them at all, pretty much. So I don't really know how the game could go either with all the cards there from the beginning or when drawing them.

Also now I'm thinking of doritos because he was obsessed with finding these specific, supposedly really spicy doritos. I don't really like those crisps. Too messy or whatever.

 

[Warmmedown]

I think poker would be great if you had all the cards at the beginning though. Honestly that could be interesting, to see how people try to play. They know how good their deck is already, but can pretend they just played their best possible hand, to draw out someone else's best possible hand to beat it. Then they play their real best hand! HAHAHAHAHA - seito kaiba these guys look similar enough. blend them together and then put them together...then you're a murderer! (blenders are only for food, guys)

Even better is poker where everyone's cards can be seen by everyone at the beginning LEL

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That’s my point strategies would be much more varied.

Either Konami gives players a seasonal catalogue of cards that can be used or infinite (which sounds crazy). For seasonal (monthly) players can choose cards from a limited catalogue of cards that are allowed each month.

Rules:
- The players choose 40 cards from that catalogue or infinite.
- all cards are playable each turn
- every spell is fast-play
- 1 spell & trap card are allowed to be played each-turn
- 1 spell & trap card are allowed to be set each turn
- only classic cards or easy cards are allowed (no book-level card-text with 1,000 card-effects)
- 60 second time-limit for each-turn

 

[TheVocalsmith]

Yugioh would of lost all players almost instantly due to one funny little man...

Exodia. You just win... every single time... as long as your opponent isnt using Exodia. Whats stopping you from selecting the 5 peices of Exodia and since your 40 chosen cards is your "Hand" Exodia's effect activates and you win.

There is no way to stop it. Match Winner effects take priority over anything else.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Exodia can also be banned from this format & also no searchers because they aren’t needed.

 

[TheVocalsmith]

I think if Yugioh was made like this, it would of flopped long ago... but now it would just be a very weird and little played format.

Luckily if its just OG Cards, then you only have to ban some cards rather than half... unless they have a special reprint of them for this format.

 

[TheVocalsmith]

This is just my opinion however... who knows? This format may the greatest thing ever.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think if Yugioh was made like this, it would of flopped long ago... but now it would just be a very weird and little played format.

Luckily if its just OG Cards, then you only have to ban some cards rather than half... unless they have a special reprint of them for this format.

Why? It’s skill over luck. Do you prefer luck? In a format like this an amateur could never defeat a pro. Your hand would be your deck & your deck would be your hand (or alternatively you start-out like normal, with 5 cards & every turn choose card to add to hand).

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Or maybe mirror decks with the same rules are also good (but with the same card-catalogue it might essentially be the same). Both have the same cards now it comes-down to how you use it.

 

[TheVocalsmith]

Why? It’s skill over luck. Do you prefer luck? In a format like this an amateur could never defeat a pro. Your hand would be your deck & your deck would be your hand.

Yugioh was pretty much always luck and I like it how it is, If you had all your cards to begin with, Heart of the Cards wouldn't be a thing, there would be no awsoe moments of "Drawing the Out." What's wrong with someone not as skilled beating a pro?

also... what are classic cards to you? Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon to what? Magic Ruler with Ritual? The Duelist Genesis with Synchro?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yugioh was pretty much always luck and I like it how it is, If you had all your cards to begin with, Heart of the Cards wouldn't be a thing, there would be no awsoe moments of "Drawing the Out." What's wrong with someone not as skilled beating a pro?

also... what are classic cards to you? Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon to what? Magic Ruler with Ritual? The Duelist Genesis with Synchro?

Pre-Yu-Gi-Oh! GX.

It’d be much kewler & more strategic with-out drawing. You’d be wondering what the opponent is playing. Whether they are baiting or not, like wolf said I think. you could maybe even replicate manga duels. The limitations also make the game funner.

with luck, you can brick or your opponent could defeat the best player by luck, like what?

 

[TheVocalsmith]

Why are you replicating Manga duels? what fun is it knowing who's going to win? What's the point in playing other than "Hey! Its neat"

what's stopping you from doing a Manga duels in the current format? Make a new outcome for the duel.

Now that I think about it, this format actually seems really fun, even If we do add modern cards. Ill get my friend to try it out.

And I dunno, I like the luck part of Yu-Gi-Oh. Praying to RNG Jesus you get what you need and then bluffing when you inevitably don't get it is fun to me

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Why are you replicating Manga duels? what fun is it knowing who's going to win? What's the point in playing other than "Hey! Its neat"

what's stopping you from doing a Manga duels in the current format? Make a new outcome for the duel.

Now that I think about it, this format actually seems really fun, even If we do add modern cards. Ill get my friend to try it out.

And I dunno, I like the luck part of Yu-Gi-Oh. Praying to RNG Jesus you get what you need and then bluffing when you inevitably don't get it is fun to me

I don’t know it’s just good to know where skill stands for every-one. In the manga duels are hype at-times so managing the same is kewl.

1 thing stopping is different rules, not being able to draw exactly what you need & nerfed cards.

modern cards would ruin it I think because million effects & it’s out-of-control.

I don’t really care for the luck. No-one in the manga ever draws bad, out-side of Yami-Yugi’s friend seemingly.

 

[SSJ2]

Why? It’s skill over luck. Do you prefer luck? In a format like this an amateur could never defeat a pro. Your hand would be your deck & your deck would be your hand (or alternatively you start-out like normal, with 5 cards & every turn choose card to add to hand).

I think luck is an element of most games that makes it more engaging. Luck adds variance which makes every game unique, and therefore more engaging to both play and watch.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think luck is an element of most games that makes it more engaging. Luck adds variance which makes every game unique, and therefore more engaging to both play and watch.

I’ve heard this argument for card-games, but don’t you think it’d be much more interesting if you had all the cards & then could play the cards the way you want to? It’d lead to a-lot of thinking & baiting & stuff & no bad drawing of hands.