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Who wins?
Who wins?
I didn't say Yamcha is higher than Vegeta in-fact I agreed with you. You can read again. I doubted Yamcha or Tenshinhan being this high years ago.GreatSaiyaman123 said:@Fantastische Hure Daizenshuu 7 states power is a factor as well.
Even taking that out of the picture, Yamcha isn’t reaching Saiyan Saga Vegeta levels. If he lacks the talent and skill to master a technique that buffs his power up to +10k, then it hardly makes sense for him to reach that power at all. His body simply isn’t built to support so much power.
Fantastische Hure said:I didn't say Yamcha is higher than Vegeta in-fact I agreed with you. You can read again. I doubted Yamcha or Tenshinhan being this high years ago.
So you think Nappa could pull-off a Kaio-Ken? Kaio-Ken also takes Ki mastery.
Fantastische Hure said:I don't think Nappa has the talent, especially if a martial-arts master like Kaio can't do it. Granted Nappa is much higher.
Fantastische Hure said:Kuririn could be >> Monster Zarbon since Vegeta said Kuririn can help unlike Zarbon. Kuririn's power was also said to still be rising after the fact.
Captain Cadaver said:As Hure said, the argument for Yamcha being below 8k due to not knowing Kaioken isn't that strong. I think we can all agree Piccolo was at bare minimum on Nail's level after Kaio's training, yet you don't see him using Kaioken. Yes, he was only on Kaio's planet for 6 days, but if he can make those kind of gains whilst Kaio is accepting to offer him the full training course, there's no reason for him to have not gained Kaioken.
Even taking into account Yamcha not having as much talent as Piccolo, I highly doubt he'd cap off so low from intense training when Kuririn's potential at bare minimum had him far surpassing Reacoom from his time on Namek.
Except for the V-Jump placing him at 75k after the Ginyu fight and the fact he went from around the 10k ballpark to overpowering someone at 23k shows he was still getting stronger by enough to make this consistent. I see there being no way Vegeta would consider him of any worthwhile support against Freeza if Kuririn was still below someone Base Goku could oneshot prior.GreatSaiyaman123 said:Still, there’s no evidence he ever reached Recoome’s level