Freeza Saga ~ Android Saga

@Power Level Guy thinking about making SSJG3 a 10x boost. It makes Rosat Goku flow better, but it’ll also make Ultra Trunks > Cell Jrs. I also think Ultra Trunks being 2x warm up Cell gets kinda nasty.

So what should Grade 3 be? 5x or 10x?

GreatSaiyaman123 said:

@Power Level Guy thinking about making SSJG3 a 10x boost. It makes Rosat Goku flow better, but it’ll also make Ultra Trunks > Cell Jrs. I also think Ultra Trunks being 2x warm up Cell gets kinda nasty.

So what should Grade 3 be? 5x or 10x?

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I believe I've perfected the Grade boost situation. I found a happy medium between all the issues and I doubt I'll ever change again. This one took years.

Here's my rules I went by.

Mid-RoSaT SSJ Goku shouldn't be super powered up. He can be stronger, but it should be as minimal as possible. I ended up going with a 1.5x boost for Goku.

Grade 2 is a 2x boost, Super Vegeta > Initial PC > Semi Cell FP > Semi Cell ~ SSJ Vegeta proves that Grade 2 is a solid boost. We have multiple significant power-ups occurring here and still not quite matching Vegeta. Initial PC should be way stronger than Semi Cell FP.

Grade 3 must be a lot stronger than SSJ2. Super anime gave us a good one with Grade 3 Trunks > SSJ2 Trunks that always made sense to me. No reason to go against it imo.

The stronger you make Grade 3, the more you run into problems. You can't have it all with this power chain. If you make Grade 3 really strong, it'll help for Goku, but it'll make Trunks too strong for Cell who's Buff power should match him.

You don't want Grade 3 Trunks >>> PC.

Also, I'm heavily influenced by the idea of 50% Goku >>> Buff Cell/Grade 3 Trunks. I think 50% Goku should smash the two of them with both hands tied behind his back and fighting with just his legs even if you removed their speed issues.

Here's my multipliers which I consider Goated.


SSJ 50x
Grade 2 100x
SSJ2 200x
Grade 3 300x
SSJ3 1,000x

And it makes this little neat chart.


Grade 2 2x
SSJ2 4x
Grade 3 6x
SSJ3 20x

I think this is GOATED.

@Power Level Guy you have the cheat code of not having Imperfect Cell 5x Kamiccolo. That makes it much easier for Androids Goku to catch up to Semi Cell.

GreatSaiyaman123 said:

@Power Level Guy you have the cheat code of not having Imperfect Cell 5x Kamiccolo. That makes it much easier for Androids Goku to catch up to Semi Cell.

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Indeed I do. Lol. Not sure why you guys keep sticking with AT's irrationality, acting like he knew what the hell he was doing lol. You should listen to me here, I know much better than the author, he is a power scaling noob.

Power Level Guy said:

Let’s do a panel vs panel break down ahill. Post all panels and I’ll walk you through it.

Goku’s whiff stands above all feats, he whiffed worse than any other rival in the history of the series my brother.

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@SSJ2 got me already. I BS'd my way out in my last responses, but he made GOATed points, it's unfair if he's also arguing against me, I can't keep up. That's like having an Evil Vegeta on your side also, not fair.

@GreatSaiyaman123​

Could you add these characters?

Goku SSJ =
(Kamehameha) =

Vegeta SSJ =
(Final Flash) =

Future Trunks SSJ =
(shot) =

Gohan SSJ =
(Masenko) =

Piccolo =
(Makankosappo) =

Hatchyack = 100
(shot) =

Hatchyack Giant =
Super Hatchyack =

Genkidama =

SIAD said:

@GreatSaiyaman123​

Could you add these characters?

Goku SSJ = 30
(Kamehameha) = 50

Vegeta SSJ = 20
(Final Flash) = 50

Future Trunks SSJ = 20
(shot) = 30

Gohan SSJ = 15
(Masenko) = 20

Piccolo = 10
(Makankosappo) = 30

Hatchyack = 100
(shot) = 150

Hatchyack Giant = 150
Super Hatchyack = 180

Genkidama = 200

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Numbers inside the quote box.

GreatSaiyaman123 said:

Numbers inside the quote box.

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@GreatSaiyaman123

Does Hatchiyak have a durability greater than his real power?

Goku talked a lot about attacking Hatchiyak together when he attacks, since at that moment Hatchiyak is vulnerable.

That means that:

Hatchiyak (Durability) > Hatchiyak (Power)?

SIAD said:

@GreatSaiyaman123

Does Hatchiyak have a durability greater than his real power?

Goku talked a lot about attacking Hatchiyak together when he attacks, since at that moment Hatchiyak is vulnerable.

That means that:

Hatchiyak (Durability) > Hatchiyak (Power)?

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Yes.

GreatSaiyaman123 said:

Numbers inside the quote box.

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Are the Z Fighters in Hatchiyak's OVA their CG versions?

SIAD said:

Are the Z Fighters in Hatchiyak's OVA their CG versions?

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Yes. They all have their CG looks.

@GreatSaiyaman123
And what do you think of:

Super Hatchiyak >= Gigant Hatchiyak >= All 5 powers combined > Hatchiyak (Final Revenge) >>> Hatchiyak?

SIAD said:

@GreatSaiyaman123
And what do you think of:

Super Hatchiyak >= Gigant Hatchiyak >= All 5 powers combined > Hatchiyak (Final Revenge) >>> Hatchiyak?

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I think Super Hatchy > or >> Giant Hatchy

Super Hatchy = SPC
Giant Hatchy = Cell (Power Weighted)

GreatSaiyaman123 said:

I think Super Hatchy > or >> Giant Hatchy

Super Hatchy = SPC
Giant Hatchy = Cell (Power Weighted)

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@GreatSaiyaman123

And what do you think of:

Gigant Hatchiyak >= All 5 powers combined?