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I have: Baba Goku: 100 Expected Goku: 110 - 120 King Chappa: 120

Could Tenshinhan (M9) defeat the Future Androids individually or both at once? Could Tenshinhan (M9) defeat Androids #17 and #18 individually or even both at once?

Well, they knew Cell was going to be much more powerful than the Androids. Maybe the SSJs didn't double their power, but I'm not ruling out the possibility that they increased their power. @Papasmurf What do you think? @Power Level Guy How strong do you think Future Gohan SSJ would be if he...

Anyway, Gohan had never trained with 10x gravity before. It was great training for Gohan to be in the Rosat, and even after two months, Goku SSJ was still superior to Gohan SSJ. I'm referring to the moment when Goku showed his Grado levels. I think in the first two months, Vegeta, Goku, and...

The benefit would be that they train with greater gravity and in more difficult conditions. The combination of both gives them greater gains. @Papasmurf What do you think?

There was much less oxygen at Rosat, and the force of gravity was greater. Training in a new place always has benefits.

I also think the same: if the Saiyans had trained in SSJ on Earth, they would have made very small gains, but by training in the Rosat, they made huge gains, and by reaching Grade 2, they were able to increase their power even faster. How strong would Future Gohan have been if he had trained in...

@Papasmurf "Seems unlikely for them to surpass the Androids in just a few months, remember, they are pretty much tapped out. Regular Super Saiyan training won't be enough to surpass the Androids and Cell, they are already at their limits. More or less at least." What do you think?

Powered Up Nappa 3,200 Masenko 2,800 (1.12x amp) Enraged Gohan 2,500 Kikoho 2,400 (2x amp) Chaozu's Self Destruct 2,000 (3.33x amp) Nappa (Initial) 1,960 Piccolo 1,500 Scatter Shot 1,450 (1.5x amp) Saibaman's Self Destruct 1,350 (1.59x amp) Tien 1,200 Yamcha's Kamehameha 1,200 (1.33x amp)...

@Papasmurf What do you think?

Shouldn't Chaoz's Self-Destruction be > Nappa (Initial)? Chaozu self-destructed after Nappa had powered up.

You are so right.

Suno, Android #8, Suno's father, Suno's mother, Village Chief, Dr. Flappe, Tanmen, Chulee, Chulee's mother.

Your power level lists are amazing. The CC and P lists are also very good.

@Animelover5487 By any chance, how powerful were Goku and Vegeta SSJ at the time they discovered the Grado forms? On both occasions, they had spent two months training at Rosat. I believe that at that time, in SSJ, they were more powerful than Androids 17 and 18, but inferior to Android 16...

@MikaelHarding CC and P.

@Papasmurf By any chance, how powerful were Goku and Vegeta SSJ at the time they discovered the Grado forms? On both occasions, they had spent two months training at Rosat. I believe that at that time, in SSJ, they were more powerful than Androids 17 and 18, but inferior to Android 16. What...

If you can, rewatch the manga chapter where Broly vs. Vegeta fight, after DBS Hero. At least in Chapter 103 of the DBS manga, there isn't that much of a gap between Beast Gohan (Controlled Rage) and Beast Gohan (Normal). However, the gap between Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo in the DBS Hero...

Great list