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A potential unlock could also increase the effectiveness of gains from battle and training. Speculative but it's probably the best explanation we have.

Probably due to legal reasons as Japan has draconian copyright laws.

Once you passed the several thousands mark I think rounding up was reasonable.

Are you sure? He dominates SSJs and gets one-shot by SSJ2 Gohan. With Hatchiyak ~ Perfect Cell > LSSJ Broly(M8) it could easily fit SSJ2 Gohan and Bojack above M8 Broly. I think the Hatchiyak game has an alternate ending where a powered-up Hatchiyak defeats SSJ2 Gohan though. If you have SSJ2...

This seems like a moot point that doesn't address what we are discussing. Remember that Vegeta referred to Majin Buu's "sentou-ryoku" upon Buu's hatching, which is the same phrase used for battle powers. This was long after scouters were gone. That means there should be some equivalence between...

Then it's not a power up. You could say Vegeta was doing the Saiyan adaptation thing of gaining power in battle for the Galick Gun. The theme of this thread is ignoring Daizenshuu but we do have Kaio-Ken x4 Goku listed as 32k so that must mean something. Within the manga we see Kaio-Ken x3 Goku...

We clearly see Vegeta and Nappa power up though. Vegeta even shows a performance difference when he matches Kaio-Ken x2 Goku then outperforms KKx2 Goku when he powers up. Can't deny that.

Is it actually said that Vegeta can't change his power level? The Z Fighters could not tell that Vegeta was stronger than Nappa when Vegeta wasn't fighting. Both Nappa and Vegeta power up so they can change their power to some degree. I think its more that they can't suppress themselves.

Can we get the ability to delete posts please?

He absolutely does for Broly. Several times on Twitter he had to repeat himself that Broly is the strongest Z anime character, bar none. Final Flash damaged a suppressed Perfect Cell. With Hatchiyak being about equal to "Perfect Cell" and performing so well against Cell Games-level Z Fighters...

Ah I see, I made a mistake. Well it's a conundrum. Just spent an hour talking to AI about it and there isn't a fantastically logical answer. Simpler to say Dr. Gero is wrong about his caclulations.

Sorry that it took so long:

Manga Gohan in the tournament of power confirmed to be using Ultimate, despite the difference in hairstyle.

They were shrunken to smaller than fleas. So that makes sense.

There are fleshed out concepts like Goku feeling bits of Ultra Instinct and the extended training scenes for Goku and Vegeta that provide more info about god forms. Then there's the setup for 17 to get a Bulma's ship. What do you mean by "keep them around"? Like delete them from canon? Like...

The suit hinders their ability to fight to full effectiveness, so even with their power being equal to 18, she'd hold an advantage anyway. The anime had more dialogue to flesh it out, like Trunks saying he can't put his back into his punches.

No it means the anime and manga have distinct portrayals of the events they differ from Battle of Gods and RoF. The anime canon has Bulma's birthday party take place on a boat for example. Among other differences it means the battle of gods movie isn't interchangeable with the anime or manga...

Try this: #20 Post 2nd suppressed Piccolo: 116 Vegeta SSJ: 100 Goku SSJ: 95 F. Trunks SSJ: 90 Piccolo(full power): 80 Piccolo(suppressed): 56 #20 Post Piccolo: 60 #20 Post Vegeta: 50 #20 Post Yamcha: 49.9

Ok I'll let you know.