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I guess that makes sense if you think everyone was just having a "big blast gets fired and everyone wonders if it worked before the enemy shows up unscathed" PIS moment when Gohan fired his Kamehameha

isn't base Vegeta only evenly matched with He'll Fighter #17 though? Do you have HF17 >> all other Z senshi?

I think that chain works fine, other than base Vegeta seeming a bit OP @SIAD

Yeah that's probably best. S17 arc is a giant mess with power chains all over the place, but you can at least justify stuff like SSJ Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta >> SSJ2 Gohan with explanations like Goku's base level continually rising due to unlocking SSJ4 which gave him his max potential, and Vegeta...

To give Mu and Gero some credit, I don't think they expected Hell Freeza and Cell to be able to defeat Goku after he was trapped in Hell, given that Mu didn't say anything about SSJ Goku surpassing expectations. They probably just thought Goku would be stuck in Hell since Piccolo resigning...

I think they're either just listing the Saiyan warriors (not the first time a guidebook statement conflicts with the source material or uses weird benchmarks for comparison, gets established power chains wrong like Daimao > Kami); or Gohan might have gotten a rage boost, if you really want to...

I think Majuub wins. Baby was at least able to amuse himself by holding back against base Oob and Majuub was able to make him struggle at least a little bit, and I think SBV2 = SSJ2 S17 arc Vegeta. This Vegeta should be leagues above Gohan. Though, Gohan also seems to be stronger considering he...

They used the term Chikyuu-jin in the interview which means Earthling. Saiyans, androids aren't counted. Because Kuririn was carrying the Senzus. Not to mention it's plain as day Ten would get oneshotted by the androids seeing as they were expected to be >> SSJ Future Trunks, so his irrelevancy...

They were used in the RoF arc multiple times.

About the same difference between a bitch and a bitch ass nigga

How so? Ten has zero feats aside from stalling Semi with a technique that amplifies his strength to plot breaking levels, and even then, the Daizenshuu states the Kikoho is like a glorified Kiai.

It's supposed to make you full for 10 days, but Goku seemed to still want to eat more after ingesting one. The healing properties weren't introduced until the Daimao arc, where it's just infodumped that it heals wounds.

They vanish for no reason in GT, they still get used in Super's RoF, Zamasu and ToP arcs. They're in most of the manga arcs as well.

I don't think Toei even intended it to be a power statement, just padding to drag out the episode enough for it to not catch up to the manga. Toei contradicts these types of statements all the time on their own anyway, like how some sources state Goku hadn't gotten any weaker upon turning to a...

Why give an anime-only, offhand statement this much credence?

Directoral preferences. And certain jokes may not transfer well from paper to the small screen.

Paragus still has a tail as well as all the Saiyans who died when Planet Vegeta blew up in flashbacks.

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-july-2014-ooishi-toriyama-scouters-qa/ This is the interview you were thinking of. Toriyama said they break when they catch a high battle power as showy staging for a comic, and that it should really be impossible since it's digital, but if he...

Freeza's not going around in FP all the time and Goku is probably factoring in KKx10, which Vegeta isn't aware he can pull off.