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And if the numbers in the Daizenshuu looked good then nobody would bother to dispute them. There’s no reason to have Goku using Kaioken there, it’s never stated or implied.

The colored release doesn’t show him using Kaioken there No

link 4th form Freeza over Vegeta alone screws everything up, even if we were to accept every tiny gap before then (I wouldn't) You stopped short of Goku's full power

I used a 40x boost once, to make this Base Gotenks ~= SSJ2s thing work.

Gero was literally always fucking wrong, I see no issue with him being wrong just one more time.

When Kurapika fights Uvogin, he blocks two punches from him. The second was at full power, and the first was supposed to be at 20%. When Kurapika blocks the first punch and emerges unscathed, Uvo is shocked, since according to him, only an Enhancer should be able to block his attack...

To elaborate on this post, as CC requested us to do in the opening post, these are my favorite characters.

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I mean it depends on what you value ultimately. If the plotless nature of Dragon Ball bothers you that much or if the themes of Naruto just resonate with you for whatever reason, then fine. I don't think it's needed to make something that's just enjoyable though.

Naruto's war arc alone is more incoherent than all of Dragon Ball combined.

Mob Psycho 100 - pretty good Akagami no Shirayukihime -- a bit drab Hunter x Hunter -- rewatch, goddamn does the ant arc drag ass in the anime Houseki no Kuni -- interesting visual style

It really depends on a case-by-case basis. But I think Dragon Ball on its own at least has stood the test of time as a decent entry-level adventure/battle series, regardless of what else continues to come along, some of which will probably also age poorly in the future.

I had pretty much this exact experience with regard to how I see these series. Discovering Naruto/Bleach and other late 90s/2000s battle shounen after DBZ felt like leveling up, since those series had a "real" story and "real" characters where Dragon Ball had (comparatively speaking) none, so I...

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Kastro was not a Floor Master I don't think. He was just 1 win away from challenging one.

Illumi's Ren could've been retroactively explained as hypnosis or similar. The most blatant foreshadowing of Nen, which is when Togashi probably had it in his mind for real, is when Satotz refers to the secret exam. I imagine that's around the point he decided he needed a power system. And even...