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    SSJ2 Goku VS SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

    For what it's worth, in the anime fight, Vegeta fared better. I think to Vegeta that battle was his lifelong goal, whereas for Goku (even with no distractions), it was just another fight. So Vegeta would have most likely won.
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    Monster Zarbon

    How about 28k?
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    Kaioshin Strength

    Do we need to treat SSJ as a multiplier?
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    Kaioshin Strength

    Unless you can somehow picture Kaioshin lifting the Z-Sword (which Base Gohan was struggling to lift) effortlessly without that seeming strange to you plot-wise, Kaioshin is below Base Saiyans.
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    What If All Of The Main Protagonists Were Female?

    PART 34 At Dende's Lookout, the main characters have also brought their loved ones there. When Videl sees Gohan turned to stone, she has an emotional outburst. The others try to calm her down, reminding her she's pregnant and she must be careful so she doesn't have a miscarriage. For the first...
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    Did AT want Gohan to become the MC because...

    SSJ2 Kid Gohan was badass, and he'd have made a good MC if AT knew other ways to continue the story other than introducing new huge power ups.
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    Expected Battle Powers

    I interpret Nail's words more as something like, "You might have a chance."
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    Expected Battle Powers

    I have Weighted Piccolo at 250k.
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    Do you consider the movies canon?

    Timeline 1: Original timeline where Cell came from. -TV Special: Father of Goku. -Early Dragon Ball. -Movie 1: Dead Zone. -Saiyans Saga. -Freeza Saga. -Garlic Jr Saga -Goku kills Freeza and King Cold. -Movie 5: Cooler's Revenge (at the end of the movie, Cooler dies when pushed into the sun). -TV...
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    Expected Battle Powers

    He went from being a little weaker to a little stronger than FP 2nd Form Freeza. At this point in the series, I see no reason to treat weights-off boost as anything different from what it was in Saiyans Saga (1.25x).
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    Do you consider the movies canon?

    Yes, if you accept my 6-timelines theory (Super timelines excluded) that can explain logically all the movies.
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    Do you like my Saiyan Saga numbers?

    For a blast to get its own name, I think it must have a considerable multiplier. Though I'm not against Enraged Gohan=Massenko; maybe that blast was another way to channel his anger. Goku just said his power dropped. He didn't say it dropped much.
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    Expected Battle Powers

    Weighted Piccolo was implied to be a little less than half of Freeza's power (around 250k). I don't see why removing weights should give him that much of a boost at this point.
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    Expected Battle Powers

    OK, how about 350k for Expected Freeza?
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    Expected Battle Powers

    80% of his effort. I have Nappa at 3.5k when he fights the Z-fighters. Freeza controlled his power level only after he transformed, so there is no suppressed 1st form. Piccolo just said, "His power waxes greater (not increased), he must be about to fight."
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    How much stronger did Goku get between EoZ and the start of GT?

    Logically, Goku shouldn't have had large gains between Buu Saga and BOGT, let alone between EOZ and BOGT. I think his fight with Ubb at the beginning of GT would make much more sense if he were drawn as SSJ2.
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    Badibi's Expectation

    Maybe Kaioshin is half of Puipui's power.
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    Expected Battle Powers

    I have Goku's/Piccolo's full power at 750 here, so Expected Raditz is at 1,000. Piccolo was at least at 2,000 himself, but he didn't seem sure he could take out Expected Saiyans, even with the help of the others. He should expect them to be at least at 3,000. Piccolo was implied to be half of...
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    Freeza's expected power

    I think Vegeta showed surprised when Freeza powered up in his 1st form.
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    Freeza's expected power

    How strong did King Vegeta expect him to be? Considering King Vegeta was at around 11,000 and hoped to take him out with the help of his men, he should expect him to be at most at 20,000, or even lower if he'd taken Dodoria/Zarbon helping Freeza into consideration too. What about Vegeta...
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