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So what did we learn? Anything new?

I think 18 was using her full power against the boys, but I do think the boys were a little bit stronger. Remember, for Trunks to be doing this well, he certainly isn't any weaker, Trunks isn't getting beat up as badly as Vegeta was, and 18 held back against Vegeta. 18 (vs Mighty Mask) > 18 (vs...

Fasting isn't the best for muscle growth though. Are you just trying to be skinny and not really worried about muscle?

It's tough. Because Gero definitely proves it's a smaller multiplier. It's a contradiction. How do you explain it being only 10x or so? And in many cases, it feels even smaller than 10x. But we know it cannot change. 10x is problematic for the boys in the Buu Saga, 50x is ruined by Gotenks and...

It’s probably the safest option. To try to explain why Kaioken isn’t used in universe especially considering it’s use in Super anime because quite troublesome. There’s been too many situations where it could have been useful if Kaioken can surpass Super Saiyan.

Fasting won’t do that, moderate deficit with low intensity cardio and high intensity weight lifting is the way bro. You have to reduce the suffering it’s all about adherence. The rebound effect is dangerous.

You guys ever see the anime the seven deadly sins? It’s massively more sexual assault, this dude Meliodas is constantly sexual assaulting Liz

Why lose more weight? Shouldn’t you be trying to put on muscle? You are light enough for your height for sure, we are the same weight and I’m a foot shorter

Video’s statement is contradicted whereas Piccolo’s statement is not. Yeah the anime blew it. Gotenks should definitely be Super Saiyan 3. But yeah, we have a clear as day Base Gotenks > Majin Buu implication coming from the following saga so after that I pretty much ended the discussion for...

And what about the Base Gotenks Post > Majin Buu suggestion made by Piccolo during the BoG saga in the anime?

@GreatSaiyaman123 Ok so how strong is he then?

It’s the same and Potara gets a little benefit, probably adds the remaining power or gives a little boost when they aren’t equals.

What’s your height and weight. All that fasting isn’t fun nor is it all that helpful. The game is about fat loss, I’d just start tracking my calories and ease into the deficit. It’s not a race, enjoy the process!

Wouldn't the best option be to assume the kids have gotten stronger in Super to now match the Cell Jr power instead of the reverse? Shouldn't their power have increased and now their base power surpasses Piccolo? Or does that not work either?

The power levels are in on the jokes as well. There's nothing sacred about them. Have you seen Super? This is actually more likely the case then you'd probably think. According to Gero calculations as well as Goku's own statements, "Was it non-Super Saiyan Vegeta or non-Super Saiyan Piccolo...

Why wouldn't he at least be the strongest? Generally, new characters are stronger than the last. We know he's not stronger than Goku, because then everyone would be believing in him, we know he's not stronger than Fat Buu, because he got beat up badly. Gotenks can sense ki, Trunks can sense ki...

Hmm, honestly, the only reason we have issue with Gotenks power is the extremity of the power levels. The bloating. The author does not care about any of that. Look at Super. It's all super bloating. He's writing a story. He doesn't care about the "authenticity" of "realistic" power levels. We...

It’s the same thing

As you start to get in better shape you have to be more precise with your preparation. Once you start tracking everything you eat, your steps and so on, then you can make it to the next level. It sucks but welcome to the fitness world brother, you made it!

The Cell Jrs aren't using a ton of effort, they most likely could easily overwhelm the boys if they were really trying. The boys are using their full effort and barely scraping by while the Cell Jrs are just toying around. The scene doesn't last long to see a final outcome.