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"from United States" IP in Pakistan. @Zippy you know this man?

So who you got? Appule or Vegeta?

My experience with the Dragon Ball fighting games basically starts and ends with Budokai Tenkaichi and Raging Blast style 3D gameplay. I've played 2D style a little bit but it was something that never clicked with me, though to be fair I never gave it a decent shot. FighterZ is on sale on Steam...

Assuming there is another one. Give us your basic plot synopsis. I believe the next movie will incorporate Broly in a protagonist role. I also expect Hedo to be apart of it, but I don't want to make bullish predictions.

I think I do, if I'm entering into a discussion pertaining to the original manga series. Why the need to bring in supplementary material? A famous debate we've seen because of this is the base Saiyans and Freeza argument. There's way more to suggest Base > within the original manga but due to an...

Yes, in my opinion. Because if you can't support your argument using the actual relevant material it probably isn't a strong argument.

In this context, the original Dragon Ball manga. Super is based on this, but it isn't this. Therefore the original should always take precedence especially when the discussion is based entirely on that manga.

Because the Boo saga at the very least is in the source material. Super is not. You talk about Toriyama being forgetful and a crappy writer so I don't know why you'd take work written 20+ years later and put stock in it when discussing the original. That's just me.

I don't care if it's canon or not. Toriyama could write a sequel right now contradicting everything you believe and by your own logic you'd just accept that because this new work is deemed canon. You can argue like that if you want it just doesn't make sense to me.

Because this entire subject is relevant to the original manga and therefore should be argued within the original manga. I don't see what value it is to mention Super. It seems irrelevant.

Because Super was written decades after the fact and shouldn't even be relevant when discussing the original manga.

I don't see much merit in using Super to argue about stuff from the original manga when Toriyama clearly doesn't remember or care for consistency anyway.

This was my read on it, he doesn't want to expose himself as superhuman.

No.

I must say at page 2 or so of this thread I got terribly confused about what was being argued about but I still found it to be a fascinating read. Everyone here is quite persuasive I think so good job.

Kaioshin was too high on opioids to care.

You can say this to almost any topic anyone can make relating to Dragon Ball. I made the thread for the speculation.

This special was released thirteen years after the end of the manga, and twelve years after the last film, Path to Power. It was also released five years before Battle of Gods. I think given all this it was really cool at the time since it seemed everyone wanted a new series then. I remember...

I'd rather have someone salt my hemmorhoid.

Why me? My only Kanzenshuu account is banned and they seem strict in allowing new accounts.