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OK. Sorry to have exploded like that tho, I should try to remain more collected in instances like this. I'm under some stress with all this situation here and end up taking comments like this more sensitively than needed. As for Mihawk's black blade, I've seen some ppl theorizing that such can...

Also, fuck off with this "ahill's common sense" BS. Can't you argue without sounding like a jackass for once? Ik you're like 14 but try not sounding like a 12 year old boy with his pants wet for once. Are you just trying to let out some steam and get some silly reactions in this boring life?

How does that Zoros quote even support you?

It matters to some extent since they didn't show Sanji's fight yet, nor Luffy's final heave at Kaido.

I was. Doesn't mean I expect no-predictability within this arc.

Here's the quote: "Every weapon can be turned into a Black blade like mine". He's specifically speaking about his blade.

Yeah, Namu was also fairly close to Goku and their battle was fairly even, but I don't qualify that battle as 'fierce' enough for Goku to have squeezed some gains. Against Jackie Chun, sure, but not heavy gains. Kuririn also saw how Goku grew stronger from the time Goku battled Jackie to his...

Also, didn't Mihawk say "anyone can turn a blade black"...?

Is Ryuma's all black?

I don't understand the reasoning behind Mihawk > Roger you brought up, honestly. Isn't turning blades and body parts black pretty achievable and commonly used in part 2? Vergo could turn his weapon all black. Zoro in his fight vs Pica, too.

It's weird that they showed Jimbei's fight before Franky's fight when they generally show the weaker Straw Hats' fights first... unless Franky > Jimbei.

Well, weaker she is. I think they are close as we agreed, yeah.

Yeah not saying it is.

Yeah, 18 was also "midly impressed" by Kamiccolo's 1st assault vs 17 too. Just a "ohh" while smiling. She seemed pretty serious when they were fighting to a draw though, saying "he's deadly equal to 17" iirc.

@SuperSaiyan2 Nah, just saying that 17 boasts in general. If even an opponent = to him propelled him to say he was "playing" with him, I can see him thinking opponents slightly weaker than him as "not rivals". Idk tho, I generally settle for a 90/100 gap. It's curious that in the anime at the...

Maybe. I generally do have weighted Kamiccolo as exactly = #18. But if ppl want to look at 17's statement as excluding her, then something like: Kamiccolo FP 100 Android 17 100 Weighted Kamiccolo 90 Android 18 87 Can work imo. Assuming that 87 doesn't rival 100 (which is kinda nit-picking...

Maybe. It can be boasting but perhaps weighted Kamiccolo sits right in-between the duo.

I think they were closely matched. It seems that Kame was getting more frustrated as the fight went on, but they seemed to have different mentalities when approaching the fight. Kame wanted to quickly get rid of Goku and teach him a lesson, not believing some brat, although Goku he is, could...

Well, sure, but didn't he stay some good time in prison? Idk if he had the means improve that much. Idk tho, could be.

Do you guys find it strange how Who's-Who is supposedly possessing the same potential as Lucci and yet he was giving Jimbei that many problems?