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When Piccolo first arrives versus Krillen who can help against 1st Form Freeza.

Well since GSM seems incapable of backing up his claim I'll try to explain what I remember. I think I was pushing pretty hard some of my A>B logic and A>B is larger than C>D means that there are numerical requirements to making those things work and he got mad and leveled a Daizneshuu/Kaboom...

@GreatSaiyaman123 Well, are you going to tell me the argument or what?

So are you claiming they think Expected Super Buu ~ Fat Buu?

Then why is Piccolo shocked that Gotenks is being treated like a child while fighting Beerus?

Goku knew something was off immediately about Majin Buu's ki when he and Vegeta first sensed him. No. The boys confirm what Piccolo is saying, they sense him too and realize Super Buu is above Gotenks. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to make a prediction, a prediction that is backed up by...

Freeza's power up looks huge, later he does a far less dynamic power up and stomps Weighted Piccolo in a superior fashion to what Piccolo did to Gero. Piccolo's weighted boost only allows Gohan to remark that they can win, not that they will. Piccolo's weights are around 1.25x so should Freeza's...

Buu's ki is like a lie, they misjudged him. But based on their misjudgements we can tell that Estimated Super Buu >>> Fat Buu.

Remember, Goku only considers the kids "pretty good", they aren't rivaling Gohan at all.

1. 1.25x 2. 10x 3. 1.5x 4. Not sure about this. 5. Compared to what?

No, Base Gotenks is as strong as Estimated Super Buu, not Actual Super Buu. Estimated Super Buu is far superior to Ssj Gotenks, who is superior to Fat Buu.

Trunks never said that.

Gotenks has a full half hour. I'd agree with this. Mr. Buu was impressive against Kid Buu, much more than I thought. What makes you say that? What if Base Gotenks is much stronger than Kid Buu?

Who wins? If they fought each other instead of Beerus, how does it go?

Of what?

Which wasn't a problem with 1sr Form Freeza

Freeza's fight with Piccolo proved it should.be about the same

Then why does Piccolo say Kid Gohan > RoF Gohan?

Vegeta should be the same distance away his mannerisms are nearly identical. Feel free to use his arguments then. This problematic. Piccolo's weighted boost is 1.25 or so.

He does to kick the blast.