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Raditz

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Where do you guys think bardock stands power wise?

Ssj bardock would be at least 500k. He rapes

Its kinda the same thing he did to that saibamen

Even imperfect cell is able to sense Ki. So why not semi perfect?

I dont really think Perfect cell would show discomfort if Vegeta did that to him tho.

What are your numbers?

Imperfect cell takes this. Initial Semi cell felt some discomfort when 16 hit him in the face

Wasnt he overpowering goku after that power up? So much that goku needed to use Power strained UI sign to keep up?

Chaozu is an Otsutsuki

490k seems perfect for vegeta

Chaozu didnt even show up to fight the androids. He is so far behind others

The point is that vegeta can wreck cell, but still cant tank his punch without a busted lip

Vegeta was smiling when cell busted his lip too

I could see Krillin breaking 1 million but yamcha is much much lower. And of course either piccolo or vegeta stomp

The problem though is that this was nowhere stated. 19 shouldnt have been able to bust his lip if he is weaker than 20

Vegeta completely demolishes her. Grade 2 is a substantial increase in power. The power increase was commented on many times by piccolo. I have vegeta 75% of 18