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If Vegeta never joined, how would this have gone? Krillin/Gohan Daiz numbers are 13k and 14k respectively, but their feats against a 23K Ginyu speak otherwise. Krillin himself was fighting him to a draw, and Vegeta even stated that they haven't beaten Ginyu yet because he looks like Goku What...

After Vegeta ate the senzu bean, did he immediately jump to 500k? It seems unlikely as he was still in awe of Goku's 60K power and Goku himself said he only "might" be able to beat Jeice What do you think?

So the manga and anime tell us that Buff Buu>Super Buu However, Buff Buu is only Kid Buu+South Kaioshin, who is weaker than SSJ Adult Gohan This would put Super a very small amount above Kid Buu, which goes against larger gap presented in the buu arc Your thoughts?

What do you think? Can SSJ3 form be suppressed? Goku wasn't going all out against Fat Buu and Vegeta noted his power is beyond his imagination when he fought Kid Buu. You can chalk this up to effort as Goku wasn't trying to kill Fat Buu but still; what do you think?

Which gives higher raw power? We are not talking speed, stamina, just physical power. We are comparing the form of the same user: SSJ2 Goku and SSj Grade 3 Goku.

For example, we know that cell can sense Ki on numerour occasions. But when gohan goes ssj2, the bitch still thinks he is stronger, despite ki difference. Same applies to buuhan vs ssj vegito

Fight to the death. No chocolate beam. Who wins this time?

I searched online everywhere but couldnt find. Only till their battle against Bakura in that ultimate rpg in his apartment.

I have seen a lot of arguments about that but i personally think it is not, because BOZ piccolo was able to casually destroy moon

It was hinted number of times in the manga that he is low class weakling, but Toriyama seems to think otherwise

no fucking sense. And he could kill his master....

Why do people keep stating that he is only as strong as his buu arc self when it was stated he trained for 7 years

Toei website said that janemba is stronger but is the information reliable or not?

We know that this version of cell is stronger than vegeta so that means he is also stronger than goku. However, Piccolo called cells kamehameha pathetic. Can Goku win the kamehameha struggle seeing as his Kamehameha has higher amp?

Thi is piccolo who fought 17. What level of kaioken would he need to defeat cell?

Vegeta was treated like shit by Zarbon and Dodoria. But how was he treated by frieza? Did Frieza taunt him by calling him monkey and such like in the filler?

Vegetas PL lowered when he created power ball but did the same happen to turles?

Gohan after being healed by Dende (after 2nd frieza beat him up) Vs Vegeta before his final Zenkai. Who wins?

where was it stated. I heard i multiple times

What would have happened? Would he have been able to defeat frieza with the fruit?