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What do you think? I would have liked for him to return in the Buu Saga and explain why he wasn't dead as opposed to just re-appear to get defeated and everyone he killed would just be resurrected.

Zenkais can't be inflicted by self damage as stated by Vegeta: Do you think Toriyama retconed this or forgot about this line? Therefore this line would not have any more value from that point on?

In the movie, I have: Piccolo: 90 Gammas: 95 Gohan: 100 What do you think?

Which is a bigger gap?

I mean, when he returned to Earth, Gohan knew that Cell has powered up, but how much of a power up did he expected him to get? It's clear that he didn't had a grasp at how strong he actually has gotten as he admitted by himself that Cell's power has gone up more than he thought after getting his...

I mean, Kaio was directly killed by Cell. Why wasn't he revived?

How much of a gap do you estimate from this? Gohan didn't thought much of Goku and thought he was holding back: Gohan was easily blocking and dodging punches that were too hard to predict for Goku: In the Buu Saga, Vegeta initially doesn't know how he compares with Gohan that has lost...

Continuing the gaps presented on this thread: https://dbzeta.net/threads/my-namek-saga-to-perfect-cell-arc-gaps.24955/ Although, I have to adjust some levels: Grade 3 Trunks = 5,788 Power Weighted Cell = 6,029 50% Goku = 8,400 Expected Fp Perfect Cell (Karin's guess) = 18,087 So, let's give...

This would probably be the same outcome as we got in Fusion Reborn, but I would somehow feel satisfied considering that thanks to him we got those moments: >Vegetto's birth >Vegeta feeling proud of Goku twice (when he broke the Potara and when he acknowledged how Goku is always superior to him)...

Do you think this increase could have been from Regular Fat Buu to Fit Buu rather than Good Buu as this is the form Goku has experience fighting against?

For what the fight is shown, even Base Gohan is slightly more powerful than him (at least to me), but the poision was quite a challenge for him during the fight. What do you think and how are your gaps?

I mean the Rosat training, how much different would it have made?

I think that I've finally find the light, let me believe which option should be the most correct one (I believe that SSJ Gotenks Pre is ahead of Fat Buu because of Fusion multiplier, there is no concrete evidence for the manga): Pre Rosat Goten 240 Pre Rosat Trunks 250 Goku 600 SSJ Goten...

I have both gaps as a 95/100. But, what do you think?

This is just in reference to the movies I enjoyed watching, the other ones I don't care and were basically boring, regardless. Movie 3: This would take place after Vegeta's "defeat" but prior to Namek trip, Goku, Gohan and Krillin would be the only ones on Earth fighting them, Vegeta would...

Your thoughts? I think Cell over Vegeta is greater as Vegeta had a hard time predicting where Cell would appear while Android 17 could dodge IP Cell's tail.

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For the sake of the thread let's assume that the Cell Saga ended with Trunks killing Semi PC before Cell could reach his perfect form, which statement do you believe is more credible/reliable? Vegeta thinking Perfect Cell wouldn't beat him: Cell's statement about him being invincible:

For example: When Trunks transformed into SSJ against Semi Cell, he just warned him about what he could do, but when it comes to stop him, he went Grade 2, which tells me that his regular SSJ could have never catched him up. When Goku transformed into SSJ against Majin Vegeta, he doesn't...

How much of a gap does it need to exist between him and the Kamehameha for him to be able to tank it? Goku = 1 Kamehameha = ? Broly = ?