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How strong do you have him? Imo he's quite a bit above 17/18, but still far below 16.

Who wins? No strain for Goku.

I think most people on here go by Base post > SSj pre, including myself. However, Piccolo doesn't remark on the individual kids' strength at all, and only on Gotenks'. Does this mean that fusion boosts aren't linear, or did Gotenks himself get stronger?

What do you have it as? Do you think it is the 80% gap the Daiz supports? I personally have it at a 96% gap.

Who wins? I'd say Mr. 2, because I feel like Sanji progressed enough by the time of his battle with Bon to beat Arlong.

I was wondering where everyone has him, as people have him at a lot of different strengths. Since I don't have the multipliers for fusions any different than regular multipliers, I have him a fair bit over SSj Boo arc Goku, but far below Perfect Cell and the SSj2's.

How far does he make it before inevitable failure? 1. Fat Boo 2. SSj3 Goku (Boo) 3. SSj Gotenks pre 4. Base Gotenks post 5. Initial Super Boo 6. SSj Gotenks post

Who wins? Does Trunks need to transform to defeat the Androids, or was he just being cautious?

During one scene in the RoSaT, Goku transform into a SSj Grade 3. When Gohan senses Goku's ki, he exclaims that Goku will definitely be able to beat Cell. Goku is at least > Initial 2nd Form Cell. The question is, did Goku improve his strength at all before becoming a Grade 3? Otherwise, if not...

I never talked about that line, I was talking about this: Goku has no reason to suppress his speed while trying to escape from his attack. Goku is even shown being surprised that Nappa kept up with him on the next page, because of the exclamation marks. Nappa was much closer, but if Goku can...

Each opponent will try to knock down the door to Dr. Gero's base. Where does the door stop? 1. First Form Freeza 2. Enraged Gohan (vs. Second Form Freeza) 3. Piccolo (fused with Nail) 4. Third Form Freeza 5. Vegeta (post Zenkai) 6. Goku (Namek) 7. Base Future Trunks (Mecha) 8. Base Vegeta...

1,000 - 1 million - 1 billion - 1 trillion - 1 quadrillion - 1 quintillion - Here are mine: 1,000 - Raditz 1 million - Second Form Freeza 1 billion - SSJ Trunks (Mecha arc) 1 trillion - SSJ2 Kid Gohan 1 quadrillion - Super Boo (vs. SSJ Gotenks) 1 quintillion - SSJ3 Vegetto (hypothetical)

What gap do you have between them? I personally have a 50 times gap.

Two Cell Jr's fuse together. How far does it get? 1. Full Power Perfect Cell 2. SSJ2 Teen Gohan 3. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta 4. Fat Boo 5. SSJ Gotenks pre Imo, it stops at 4.

Key: 1 = 1,000,000,000 I might do the U6 arc if I feel like it. :cage2 My memory on Super is hazy though so there are probably some contradictions. Also, just an FYI: I did this list with the intentions of being incredibly bloated.

I suspect that this translation is full of inaccuracies, so I was wondering if anyone who has their hands on the manga could tell me what Daimao actually says.

We know that Rild is the first villian in GT to surpass Gohan-Boo. From what I can recall, Rild held his own against M2 Base Goku before making any transformations. Later, in the Baby Saga, we see M2 Base Goku pummel SSJ Gohan, whose base form is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Most people...

How strong is she in the 28th Budokai? She was said to be capable of doing well in a tournament with Goten, Trunks, and Boo in it. What do you think? :cage2

I'm not trying to say everyone else before is < Base Gotenks, I'm saying Piccolo < Base Gotenks. The comment by Roshi seems to suggest that his ki is much larger than everyone else there, mainly Piccolo. Additionally, there's this: Piccolo seems to be overwhelmed by the amount of ki he is...

Opinions on this? I've decided to go with 480,000 for now.